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sonofghandi
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31 Mar 2014, 8:55 am

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Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.


By the vitriolic manner in which you write, I would say these words are something you should examine as they apply to yourself.


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31 Mar 2014, 12:24 pm

/\ DevKit, keep up the vitriol. It seems to be working. :twisted:


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31 Mar 2014, 1:08 pm

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Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.


You could cut the amount of time it took to write this post in half if you didn't look up every single word in the thesaurus before typing it.



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31 Mar 2014, 7:16 pm

aghogday wrote:
DevKit wrote:
Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.





You make me think that maybe people with ASD shouldn't be allowed to vote after all. But no, no for the reason stated above. It should just be you. Moreover I never stated that I dont understand feelings. In fact, I tried to convey mine to you personally in my post. It seems it is you who lacks that ability. And no, the irony of two people in an ASD forum arguing about who it is that cant understand feelings is not lost on me.


Dude i've got three college degrees..and a 24 year career with government service..

My weakness was too much intellectual fortitude and not enough emotional IQ...

A deficit in emotional IQ is definitely a serious deficit..and the evidence of that deficit is even documented here on this site..for folks taking the EQ test..and yes..i do great on it.. about double the average of 55 that most people score on this site..but no..it wasn't always that way..i worked extremely hard to bring that EQ up to close to one hundred..

And here's the other thing..modern science understand emotions as the basis for making rational decisions.. at this point in time anyway..so a deficit in emotional IQ can lead to things like deficits in executive functioning.. prevalent on the autism spectrum...

So in TOTAL effect...by raising my EQ..i raised my IQ too..

A mind in harmony is a beautiful thing to watch and experience...in REAL LIFE..NEVER FULLY EXPRESSED ON THE INTERNET...

BUT ANYWAY...i'm sorry you find Obamacare uncomfortable..but it is already saving the lives of folks i know..and i do mean..SAVING LIVES..THERE IS NO PRICE TO PUT ON THAT IN REAL LIFE..
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I had to stop reading this crap right here. I am sorry but I have never seen a military vet with 3 degrees type in all caps like this before. I have a lot of family in the military and they seem quite disciplined, you do not. You would not have gotten past the 6th grade if you had to write an essay and just make a fake statement over and over again like 'ITS SAVING LIVES" with no hard evidence. That is clearly the crux of your argument and it is completely wrong. And no, ending a statement with "IN REAL LIFE" is not a form of persuasion although it certainly is a form of something. I have seen lots of reports about cancer patients losing their coverage while being treated because of the new law. So please spare me the BS


sonofghandi wrote:
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now I am worried that I might end up having to pay that moronic MASSIVE tax levy for not being insured.


Massive is not the word you should use, as it is really not much at all, even if you have to pay it.



DevKit wrote:
I am at the impasse of not quite having enough but making it and be self sustaining. The only thing this sh** obamacre does is make it HARDER.


That is where I was until I was in a car accident while uninsured, which left me in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt. Then I spent a few years eating once a day (usually ramen or free community meals). It took me almost a decade to climb back up from the bottom of the dung heap.


At my current day job it would be one months worth of pay in a 12 month year. Cant foot it sorry and not planning
Sorry to hear about your story with the car wreck. I view that as a personal responsibility. Like i said, I was already insured, I dont have that problem. Now I lost my health care and would have had to(or will if need be) buy something more expensive if this new job doesnt work out.

sonofghandi wrote:
DevKit wrote:
Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.


By the vitriolic manner in which you write, I would say these words are something you should examine as they apply to yourself.


And for what reason? I am not attempting to mingle non since with the illusion of supposed facts in the hope that some one will mistake my BS for cold hard facts as aghogday is.



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Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.


You could cut the amount of time it took to write this post in half if you didn't look up every single word in the thesaurus before typing it.


Oh what is a thesaurus? I was looking them up on UD.



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31 Mar 2014, 10:47 pm

Well let me do the math for you..

If you do not have insurance and develop cancer..you can die...

if you do have insurance and develop cancer..you can live...

Obamacare already saves lives as some folks who do have insurance now..only have it because of the requirement
to insure folks who do have conditions like cancer..whereas before they could most definitely lose their insurance...

So these folks are living with treatment now instead of dying without it...

And hell no..the emergency room is not going to treat ya for cancer...

And i do not go by what other folks want me to do..if that is what you mean
by discipline in writing..but i can write as good as anyone here..per the Queen's English..
if i want to only use half my brain without free verse poetry to express emotion..too..
which YES IS EVEN MORE THAN HALF THE HUMAN BRAIN..
IF ya may be so kind as to 'allow' me to accentuate
that statement..with CAPS..And by the way i do not answer to the Queen..either..;)

Lots of folks are doing this on the internet now..to make communication more organic..the CAPS..
not listening to the QUEEN..by the way...2

Where have YOU BEEN..I pay attention to what iS overall effective communication..in a twitter world..

wHere most folks cannot get past 140 characters anyway..in an induced ADD world...

Without someone doing a little work..to make things novel..at least...

And oh..by the way3..i am a retired civilian government worker..not a VET..
and part of my duties as a longtime government worker..IS a technical writer..
and a proof reader of other folks work..only two of literally scores of 'hats'..required
of me in my 24 year career...AND ACCOMPLISHED AND GRADED OUTSTANDING WORK!

Here are two little examples of how i write..when i use a little less than half my brain..

http://katiemiaaghogday.blogspot.com/20 ... ho-is.html

http://katiemiaaghogday.blogspot.com/20 ... ctrum.html

You might find it useful one day..anyway..so i share ..what the hell..i share..cause i want to..

IT IS MY WILL.

That is almost all..and have a great day!

This is mostly a playground for wanna be intellectual bullies anyway..

i have no need to play that game..i was always at the top oF THE class..but hell NO..!..

i still used only half my brain..until NOW..IT goes much further..than these silly little words...by
the way...4

BUT AGAIN..FINALLY AND SINCERELY..HAVE A GREAT DAY...!

I'M TRYING TO HELP YA DUDE..WHETHER OR NOT YA SEE IT OR..

NOT..

LIKE I DO FOR EVERYONE ELSE ON THIS friggin'..
site..i ain't gave up yet..;)
and do not plan to unless the 'authorities' force me out...

There's always a queen somewhere hoping to rule over..
the
subjects...
but I DO NOT PLAY
THAT GAME..at least not..forevermoreNOW!
:)


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01 Apr 2014, 8:56 am

Seriously, wtf?

DevKit wrote:
I had to stop reading this crap right here. I am sorry but I have never seen a military vet with 3 degrees type in all caps like this before. I have a lot of family in the military and they seem quite disciplined, you do not. You would not have gotten past the 6th grade if you had to write an essay and just make a fake statement over and over again like 'ITS SAVING LIVES" with no hard evidence. That is clearly the crux of your argument and it is completely wrong. And no, ending a statement with "IN REAL LIFE" is not a form of persuasion although it certainly is a form of something. I have seen lots of reports about cancer patients losing their coverage while being treated because of the new law. So please spare me the BS


1. I have seen plenty of people with multiple degrees that like to type in caps way more than they probably should. I used to be one. Although I have 4 degrees now, so maybe #4 is what made the difference.

2. Making assumptions on one's discipline based on limited information is not a course I would recommend.

3. Insulting someone's intelligence based on the grammar, punctuation, and writing style may be tolerable, but this borders on downright abuse.

4. It likely is saving lives, but since a big portion of that is access to screenings and preventive care, it will take some time before accurate and comprehensive statistics can be generated, so concrete claims from either side are still premature. Current indicators based on historic utilization of preventive care is an indicator that the ACA will probably save lives, but no guarantees.

5. Um, where do you find all these reports of cancer patients losing coverage? I have found a few, but most of the ones I've tracked down were people who hate the ACA so much, they don't bother looking for plans that would meet their needs. If you could provide some links, I would be much obliged.

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At my current day job it would be one months worth of pay in a 12 month year. Cant foot it sorry and not planning


If that is the case, you would definitely qualify for subsidies. But have fun complaining about the tax penalties that are more than your net costs for insurance likely would have been (even if you never use it).

DevKit wrote:
sonofghandi wrote:
DevKit wrote:
Emotional reasoning lacks the intellectual fortitude necessary to solve complex socioeconomic problems.


By the vitriolic manner in which you write, I would say these words are something you should examine as they apply to yourself.


And for what reason? I am not attempting to mingle non since with the illusion of supposed facts in the hope that some one will mistake my BS for cold hard facts as aghogday is.


So you blast someone for not providing fact, then openly admit that you do not use fact but hope it will be mistaken for truth? I may be misunderstanding your words.


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