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22 Apr 2014, 4:15 am

Gray is a nut. Lots of nuts "investigate" biblical subjects. He's one of the guys who points to rock formations, claims it is a city, and then does nothing. Same kind of thing as the people who find Noah's ark every three years or so.



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22 Apr 2014, 11:26 am

This morning I woke up and it dawned on me! The reason why these towns near the Dead Sea were in such psychological depravity. The inhabitants suffered from POISONING!! Yes of course! They lived in such a mineral rich area, it actually poisoned them. Their behaviors are similar to those who have experienced heavy metal poisoning. Calcium is thought of a mineral and a metal, too. What would the effects of lifelong daily high mineral intake? Would it cause them to be irrational? Perhaps.



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22 Apr 2014, 11:40 am

You obviously saw that guy on Cosmos talking about lead poisoning in Ancient Rome this past sunday.

I dunno.

Calcium is not a "heavy metal" like lead or mercury. It doesnt masquerade as iron in your body as do those metals.

In fact you need calcium for you bones.

But locking people in cages to watch them starve to death is rather demented sounding. Maybe they had a thriving hat industry there. Victorian hat makers really were "as mad as hatters" because mercurey was somehow used in hat making in Lewis Carroll's time.



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22 Apr 2014, 11:48 am

I thought Dead Sea salts were healthy,you can get it to soak in the bath,it's suppose to pull out toxins.


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22 Apr 2014, 11:54 am

We all know too much salt is very, very bad for people and there are also high concentrations of other minerals and ALL these towns were so similar, according to historical documents. You would think there would be factions in the towns that opposed things but none did that's why God had that talk with Abraham and said everyone is evil. EVERYONE! Sounds like all of them were suffering from mental problems of some kind so the area in which they live would come into question because they would all be drinking and eating the same things.
It almost sounds like the script of a horror movie, like, The Hills Have Eyes. These people could have been right out of a horror movie! Ghoulish and creepy.



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22 Apr 2014, 11:56 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_salt


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22 Apr 2014, 11:58 am

Small doses are fine but everyday being born into that environment and having the high minerals everyday like that...might not be so healthy as a once in a while exposure.
And when you look at where they think these cities were, no one lives there and it's hard to imagine these places supporting any kind of populous. They just look uninhabitable.
However, before they were destroyed, they were quite successful due to rivers, streams and engineering. So people lived in them. It's strange no one lives there now.



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22 Apr 2014, 6:07 pm

Before we discuss the psychology of the spirits who live in the candy cane forest let's first locate the candy cane forest and establish what happened to it.

Is this story of locking people in cages from the 18th century BCE? The 13th BCE of Moses? I doubt it.



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22 Apr 2014, 7:24 pm

simon_says wrote:
Before we discuss the psychology of the spirits who live in the candy cane forest let's first locate the candy cane forest and establish what happened to it.

Is this story of locking people in cages from the 18th century BCE? The 13th BCE of Moses? I doubt it.

It's hardly a candy cane forest :s
Sources say these cities were by the Dead Sea and they are mentioned several times historically. So they could have very well existed. What they were like, what happened to them and why is all very mysterious.
I am pretty sure Zoar is still there?

Here's a little something about how such places could have existed during the Bronze age when the climate was more hospitable.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/cu ... h_01.shtml



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22 Apr 2014, 7:59 pm

He's proposing real towns that were buried in an earthquake and landslide, not a magical fire storm. And he's welcome to start digging and establish if they existed and what happened. Good luck. It wouldn't be the first effort to look under the Dead Sea.

And ancient sources likely don't say that. The Ebla tablets, from an ancient town in northern Syria, have not been fully translated into English and a number of crazy theories have been shot down about them. The Italian in charge of the translation was removed ~30 years ago and he has been criticized for sloppy work and guesses. That doesn't stop Christian apologists from quoting his claims. Josephus, a 1st century jewish guy, mentions outline of the cities of the plain but he's a bible believing jew writing almost 2,000 years later. He sees what he wants in the hills.

These clay tablets from northern Syria (Ugarit, Ebla and Mari) and Mesopotamia do contain some similar stories and traditions to those found in the bible. But it's not really helping the bible. It's showing that a younger Israelite culture imitated its older neighbors and borrowed their mythic concepts to express their own religion.



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22 Apr 2014, 8:24 pm

Of course I don't believe a great hand came from the sky and swept it all away, breathing fire onto it but I would like to know the truth about these two cities. What happened to them?