The UCSB shooter--an Aspie with a rant against women

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10 Aug 2014, 5:30 pm

There are plenty of people who are talented in some way or another, and who have good relationships. It's not so much the talent which can be the problem, surely, so much as the drivenness or narrow pursuit of a given aim to the exclusion of everything, and everyone, else.



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11 Aug 2014, 2:11 am

Marcia wrote:
There are plenty of people who are talented in some way or another, and who have good relationships. It's not so much the talent which can be the problem, surely, so much as the drivenness or narrow pursuit of a given aim to the exclusion of everything, and everyone, else.



There are no few of aspies here who are very talented (music, science...) yet are extremely humble and usually have low self esteem.

It's probably fame and wealth that may go to the head and tarantella probably went for that type of talented people.



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11 Aug 2014, 7:24 am

Marcia wrote:
There are plenty of people who are talented in some way or another, and who have good relationships. It's not so much the talent which can be the problem, surely, so much as the drivenness or narrow pursuit of a given aim to the exclusion of everything, and everyone, else.


Exactly. And the people with that kind of drive can be very difficult to live with. (Actually, the same could be said about those who are driven to amass wealth which is, I suppose, itself a type of talent.)



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11 Aug 2014, 7:44 am

I would admire a talented individual. I would admire a competent individual.

Frankly, I wouldn't want to be around somebody who's talented, and driven by that talent, to the exclusion of other people. What is value is AMIABILITY.

I'd rather be with somebody who is COMPETENT, say, in decorating, rather than somebody who is a talented interior decorator. I'd much rather be doing other things than going to thrift stores, or Home Depot, or something of that ilk.

I want somebody who is TALENTED at cuddling, rolling in the grass, and gentle frolicking.



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11 Aug 2014, 4:08 pm

Eureka13 wrote:
Perhaps some of you are confusing talent with competence. I don't know any women who would choose someone incompetent over someone who was competent (although, who knows? - there might be some women who would appreciate incompetence. It really does take all kinds.). Talent is usually innate - such as artistic talent or exceptional mathematical talent - either you've got it or you don't. Competence is learned, and it is an attractive trait in either men or women. Talent often goes along with a tempestuous temperament, and no, that's not something I find attractive at all.


often takes talent to be competence in something. my sister is talented in music and crafts, so was able to use that talent to become very competence in it.

I tried to play musical instruments and failed. I simple have no musical talent in which to build from. same with art and crafts. though perhaps there is something out there I just haven't found.

I have some talent in wood craft, that if built upon perhaps could have became more. I quite enjoyed making bowls. I would need the lave though and some other tools. also I need gloves as I am afraid of splinters. I wish there were community woodshops.
this may perhaps be my only talent, and It is one I can't build on. my uncle attempted to get me into other styles of woodcraft, but I have trouble remembering all the joints, perhaps a cheat sheet would have helped.


Eureka13 wrote:
Marcia wrote:
There are plenty of people who are talented in some way or another, and who have good relationships. It's not so much the talent which can be the problem, surely, so much as the drivenness or narrow pursuit of a given aim to the exclusion of everything, and everyone, else.


Exactly. And the people with that kind of drive can be very difficult to live with. (Actually, the same could be said about those who are driven to amass wealth which is, I suppose, itself a type of talent.)


isn't this called ambition? most people seem to have it now adays. I do not. I am the type of person to be happy where I am and enjoy life rather then view it as reaching the next goal then the next then the next. sadly I am the unwanted type :(



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11 Aug 2014, 4:37 pm

If you are talented and actually using the talent for your livelihood or in a serious avocation, it will eat a great deal of your time and focus. It has nothing to do with fame or wealth; in fact you will probably not be either famous or wealthy, even if you are very talented and spending your life on it. it's simply the demands of talent. If you are ignoring your talent, that's a different story.



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19 Aug 2014, 2:25 pm

it's hard to not think about Elliot Rodger but I want to remove him from my mind once and for all