Men asking before kissing on First Date (again this topic)

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Aww I am touched.

This is just glass tho.

Whaaat the woman who sold it to me said that it was an authentic diamond from the mines of Moria! Who made you the expert?

If you think, that there is no need to ask each other out, before engaging physical contact with each other, then I am sure you will want to give my fist the same rights that you give your lips.

I think, ultimately, the thread can be wrapped up with this:

If you are not confident in your ability to gauge how much a woman likes you before making the plunge, you should focus your efforts on delivering sexy ways to ask for consent.

Anyone disagree with that?

I don't think that at all; I am just inquiring what's the way of consenting the majority of women want.

Why am I on this forum again?

^ Welcome to Love and dating where people love to hate and berate and remonstrate

Indeed it is.

Because you're stalking me again.

If you don't ask me for a kiss and kiss me without my consent, you're sexually abusing me!

Okay here are the results of my pop quiz. Prepare to be very unenlightened/more confused, hahaha.

I got responses from six of the seven women I asked. They are non-aspie, mostly hetero women aged around 27-34.

Q: Should a guy ask permission before kissing you for the first time?

A: "Hmmm ... If you are keen and there is chemistry no if not hell yes"
A: "Tough question, sometimes the spontaneous moment on a date needs no permission but an end of date farewell can be improved by asking because it's like a declaration of interest rather than just formality."
A: "I think it's nice. I think it's better to than not, so then there's no mixed signals. But I think neurotypical women will have different opinions. Some find it odd, but I find it caring and polite. And it can be done in a cute way so it's not overly strange. I think a guy who asks is a good thing, at least he wants to know you're comfortable before launching himself at you. I think it's mostly girls you wouldn't want as gf anyway (bit immature) who see it otherwise." "Yeah, sometimes the mood gets put off by it, but the kiss usually puts me back on track "
A: "I don't think he needs to actually ask? "
A: "Hmmm, tough question! I guess it depends on the guy :s. Also on my mood. How I would have responded to that question when I was 18, 21, 24, and now 27 would all have different responses. I've changed as a person and I'm sure the way I would have answered that question throughout the past 8-9 years would be different."
A: "Personally, I don't think I'd care if I've been asked or not in an intimate situation - if I'm yes, I'm going to go for it, if I'm no, I'm going to brush them aside. If it's someone who is clearly taking advantage, I'm going to be pissy and cause a scene. If it's some random on the street, I'd appreciate being asked so I can just say no."

Can't they simply give a yes or no?

I would have. Oh well.

Non-simple questions beget non-simple answers. lol

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I'm embarrassed for not remembering this sooner, I'd have loved to drop this one a few weeks back.

I imagine this might become a real thing in California soon...