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13 Oct 2014, 3:23 am

If Israel is that racist then why is America support of them and not nuking them?


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13 Oct 2014, 9:58 am

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If Israel is that racist then why is America support of them and not nuking them?


Now I know you're not stupid but why such questions?

To get others riled up without taking a stand on your beliefs, without exposing yourself to criticism?

You can do better.

Show me a story that shows America nuking (or ANY aggressive action) toward another country over racism. Or are you saying we should?

Say what you mean.



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13 Oct 2014, 8:37 pm

Israel was founded on values of Jewish racial supremacy. The Israeli government believes that Jews are the "chosen people" and that every Palestinian is a criminal. It should come as no surprise then, that the Israeli hold themselves in higher esteem than the children of Ham.



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13 Oct 2014, 8:43 pm

ZenDen wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
If Israel is that racist then why is America support of them and not nuking them?


Now I know you're not stupid but why such questions?

To get others riled up without taking a stand on your beliefs, without exposing yourself to criticism?

You can do better.

Show me a story that shows America nuking (or ANY aggressive action) toward another country over racism. Or are you saying we should?

Say what you mean.


Exactly. America didn't take action against nazi Germany because of their obvious racism and anti semitism.

What compelled them to act was Germany sinking American ships. In fact until then, they were still deciding who to side with.

In the context of Israel, America invests billions of dollars in them so it would make even less sense to attack them, racist warts n all.


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13 Oct 2014, 8:48 pm

There are only 8.2 million people in Israel , and only 75% are jewish, so
we are talking about 8.2 (.75) =6.15 million people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Will they even exist in the future ? Won't non-Jewish immigrants overrun them ?



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13 Oct 2014, 8:51 pm

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There are only 8.2 million people in Israel , and only 75% are jewish, so
we are talking about 8.2 (.75) =6.15 million people.

Will they even exist in the future ? Won't non-Jewish immigrants overrun them ?


what just like they did to the Palestinians?


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13 Oct 2014, 9:24 pm

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what just like they did to the Palestinians?


Doesn't their angst against immigrants make sense?

They have to restrict immigration as such a tiny population could easily be overrun, presuming their goal is to maintain their "Jewish culture".



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13 Oct 2014, 9:31 pm

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Doesn't their angst against immigrants make sense?

They have to restrict immigration as such a tiny population could easily be overrun, presuming their goal is to maintain their "Jewish culture".


I was making the point that it would be poetically ironic if Israelis becoming a minority through movement of peoples since thats exactly what they did to the indigenous Palestinians on the same piece of land.

Although i don't actually believe that will happen and its exactly the same talking point used by white racists in western countries to blanketly oppose immigration, particularly from third world countries. The population of Israel is what, 7 million already? Its not that far behind western countries such as Sweden who actively promote immigration from Africa and Asia.

Even if Israel ceased to be, which won't happen, this idea that Jewish culture would be genocided is silly. Jewish culture has survived since the times of Abraham without a country, what difference is Israel going to make now?


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13 Oct 2014, 9:39 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
There are only 8.2 million people in Israel , and only 75% are jewish, so
we are talking about 8.2 (.75) =6.15 million people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

Will they even exist in the future ? Won't non-Jewish immigrants overrun them ?


Why are people always playing the race card when it comes to criticism of Israeli policies?

I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with Israeli zionists. And it's funny how the zionists always encourage multiculturalism and multiracialism in other countries, but faint at the thought of it happening in their own. This is racism by definition; they're putting their own race above the races of others.



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13 Oct 2014, 9:49 pm

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I have no problem with Jews. I do have a problem with Israeli zionists. And it's funny how the zionists always encourage multiculturalism and multiracialism in other countries, but faint at the thought of it happening in their own. This is racism by definition; they're putting their own race above the races of others.


Thats the argument that i was skating around, but doing my best to remain short of concurring with.

Theres this argument that Israel's internal attitude regarding its own immigration is evidence that its involved in a cabal to 'genocide' white people through some kind of 'cultural miscengenation'. I believe it is completely seperate to the reasons why predominately white, christian countries recieve immigration. Britain for example, recieves a lions share of immigration from the Indian subcontinent directly because of its own colonial history. Not because the Joooooos sent them there.


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15 Oct 2014, 1:23 pm

Holy hell its like watching a modern day 1960's apartheid video! If Israel is going to treat them like that then they should come to America for refuge the Africans that is. Even America isn't as bad as Israel when it comes to Immigrants.


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16 Oct 2014, 12:20 am

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Holy hell its like watching a modern day 1960's apartheid video! If Israel is going to treat them like that then they should come to America for refuge the Africans that is.


No, they should stay in Israel. That's their home, they have a right to be there just as much as the Jews do.



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17 Oct 2014, 1:16 am

Barchan wrote:
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Holy hell its like watching a modern day 1960's apartheid video! If Israel is going to treat them like that then they should come to America for refuge the Africans that is.


No, they should stay in Israel. That's their home, they have a right to be there just as much as the Jews do.
Yeah but the Jews are being total racist as*holes to them!


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17 Oct 2014, 1:31 am

AspieOtaku wrote:
Barchan wrote:
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Holy hell its like watching a modern day 1960's apartheid video! If Israel is going to treat them like that then they should come to America for refuge the Africans that is.


No, they should stay in Israel. That's their home, they have a right to be there just as much as the Jews do.
Yeah but the Jews are being total racist as*holes to them!


You need to stop generalizing people under one umbrella. You've done it twice in this topic basically saying all of Israel and all of the Jewish population hold those views, when they don't. Stop believing BS articles as well (as I've noticed from other posts)

Also, thomas81, why is it that you literally go after everything even slightly related to Israel?



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17 Oct 2014, 11:43 am

andrethemoogle wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Barchan wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Holy hell its like watching a modern day 1960's apartheid video! If Israel is going to treat them like that then they should come to America for refuge the Africans that is.


No, they should stay in Israel. That's their home, they have a right to be there just as much as the Jews do.
Yeah but the Jews are being total racist as*holes to them!


You need to stop generalizing people under one umbrella. You've done it twice in this topic basically saying all of Israel and all of the Jewish population hold those views, when they don't. Stop believing BS articles as well (as I've noticed from other posts)

Also, thomas81, why is it that you literally go after everything even slightly related to Israel?
Im not saying all Jews are like that just the ones in Israel most of them and the ones that speak out against racism get ostracized.


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17 Oct 2014, 11:57 am

andrethemoogle wrote:

Also, thomas81, why is it that you literally go after everything even slightly related to Israel?


Anyone who needs to ask that is either pro Israel or uneducated on the matter. In spite of what is advocates argue, Israel isn't a normal country and it represents the longest unchallenged series of abuses of human rights in modern history with the complicity of western governments. Is that enough to start with?

The fact that western countries are only now starting to acknowledge that the Palestinians even exist as a national group is shameful.

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