Online dating I only attract low value women.
And then there's the hours of effort I put into writing thoughtful messages to people who never respond. Should I just message everyone with "hi" in the future?
No, because they still won't respond.
I guess I should just admit I will never be loved by someone who cares about my hobbies or interests, probably never even meet anyone who cares about my hobbies and interests. I actually see profiles written by women who claim to care about the same things, and they ignore me the same as everyone else. I guess I am scum. I guess I should just be happy that I got a couple of lazy messages from women I don't really find very attractive. I guess that's all I deserve in life and nothing more.
I don't know. I know I've been messaged out of the blue by lonely girls and they turned out to be faders after a couple months. It was upfront that we were only dating as "friends", but it turned out they weren't even looking for long-term friends, just temporary attention from guys. I'm 90% asexual and really have very little interest in sex, so I thought this would be a bonus. I don't get bitter about being in the aromantic "friend zone", but being completely cut off without warning is obnoxious. Now I just ignore people who message me with "hi". They seem to be users. If they don't put much effort in they're probably going around messaging one person after the next looking for attention, not a serious relationship or even a serious friendship.
No, because they still won't respond.
I guess I should just admit I will never be loved by someone who cares about my hobbies or interests, probably never even meet anyone who cares about my hobbies and interests. I actually see profiles written by women who claim to care about the same things, and they ignore me the same as everyone else. I guess I am scum. I guess I should just be happy that I got a couple of lazy messages from women I don't really find very attractive. I guess that's all I deserve in life and nothing more.
Just makes me feel bad about myself that the only attention I can get is from people who want to use me.
dude chill out, don't you think you're overreacting ?
stop demolishing yourself over some girls who don't put enough effort into talking with you
get a refrigerator and stop melting down over this
and try respect yourself
and thus respect others
should people be valued like on market O_O? is that what capitalism does...?
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Yes.
Well...that is kinda a feature of the autistic spectrum conditions...
OP. I totally get why you'd not want to date someone who can't spell or use grammar. My rule is "If it looks like a typo ok, if they really can't spell - pass on by - unless they say upfront they have dyslexia." Because spelling matters to me. But also because a lot of people are typing on fiddly phones, I allow for typos.
Oh dear. How does that reflect on you?
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Not very well that's why I'm saying it's a bad thing but then people jump down my throat for complaining.
Can't win either way. I'm a bad man if I let it affect me and a bad man if I don't. Go ahead and have your field day. But the fact remains I can at least construct a sentence.
Or does that mean you say "Hi, did you have a good day?".
Personally, I don't like "nice". It's is bland and aggravating and it's pretty much a default when you don't really want to invest anything or risk anything or be the first one to stretch out past the middle. I like being challenged. One of the best conversations I had on a dating site was when someone messaged me and said they found me fascinating and were really interested until I dropped an F-bomb at the end of the profile.
...so I wrote them back and challenged them on that line of thinking.
Misspellings and typos irritate me too, but if you never compromise a little bit in the initial stages you will find yourself forever alone. People have different priorities in life and when you are talking relationships there are so many other things I would rather my SO prioritize than grammar, spelling and punctuation to be perfectly honest.
Maybe there is something that women are seeing [or not seeing] in your profile that is turning off the ones who put more of themselves out there. If you are consulting people who already know you, those people may not be able to give you an accurate assessment.
Posts like this are why people don't take the time to spell or punctuate correctly. They also show why niceness is a dying trend. Bravo. At least you know how to spell and punctuate correctly. I guess that's what matters. But if I see somebody typing in "leet speak," I had better do the wise thing and not talk to that person. I would hope you'd do the same thing. How much time a person puts into what they type and how they type tells a lot about them.
Also, don't feel too bad, Jerry.
...it's possible you come off like a jerk when you message women, and that's why they don't message you back.
It's just a theory.
Just because you so carefully crafted and manipulated something to "look just so" it doesn't mean you are entitled to attention. But, actually, it offers some insight as to why those you may perceive as more engaging may simply skip over it.
When I made my profile, yes I spent time and yes I put a lot of myself into it... but I didn't spend hours on it. I grabbed a few photos that represented me- one that was very recent and several from various places and activities- I often put a recent one. I would randomly add something to my profile if i thought of something funny and people who knew me said it was much like having a conversation with me rather than like a carefully constructed advertisement of myself.
The word "fake" is easy to bring to mind if you spend too much time on a profile. You also end up feeling entitled to a specific kind of attention.
You are not.
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Or does that mean you say "Hi, did you have a good day?".
Personally, I don't like "nice". It's is bland and aggravating and it's pretty much a default when you don't really want to invest anything or risk anything or be the first one to stretch out past the middle. I like being challenged. One of the best conversations I had on a dating site was when someone messaged me and said they found me fascinating and were really interested until I dropped an F-bomb at the end of the profile.
...so I wrote them back and challenged them on that line of thinking.
Misspellings and typos irritate me too, but if you never compromise a little bit in the initial stages you will find yourself forever alone. People have different priorities in life and when you are talking relationships there are so many other things I would rather my SO prioritize than grammar, spelling and punctuation to be perfectly honest.
Maybe there is something that women are seeing [or not seeing] in your profile that is turning off the ones who put more of themselves out there. If you are consulting people who already know you, those people may not be able to give you an accurate assessment.
Posts like this are why people don't take the time to spell or punctuate correctly. They also show why niceness is a dying trend. Bravo. At least you know how to spell and punctuate correctly. I guess that's what matters. But if I see somebody typing in "leet speak," I had better do the wise thing and not talk to that person. I would hope you'd do the same thing. How much time a person puts into what they type and how they type tells a lot about them.
Also, don't feel too bad, Jerry.
...pretty sure you chose to misinterpret everything I wrote here. Try again.
ETA: Just going to add? I'm someone who always says "please", "thank you", excuse me", "have a nice day". Maybe read what is there and not what you want to see.
Thank you.
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Also, don't feel too bad, Jerry.
People going all grammar Nazi on others is why niceness is dying. If you can understand what people are saying it shouldn't matter if its 100% spelled right. We aren't writing books, articles, news papers, or papers for class/science. Most people don't do those things, so great spelling/grammar isn't needed for the majority.
another thing some people work really hard to spell right and still fail. This is despite there hard work and effort.
so were war heroes, founding fathers, etc all bad people cause they couldn't write so good?
go ahead be an ass and don't talk to people who can't spell or use grammar 100%. Know what we are far better without you in our lives and you're going miss out on really kind good people.
Wait... you get messages? Must be nice
yep i'd be happy to get any messages. at least you know some women find you attractive.
unfortunately it is already like that. dating sites are the market and you can search based on parts of people and leave out those who don't have the value you want or think you need to have you. dating has become all about worth of people based on what job they have, car they drive and where they live, also what education they have.
Yes.
Well...that is kinda a feature of the autistic spectrum conditions...
Then that must mean you're autistic too. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
...it's possible you come off like a jerk when you message women, and that's why they don't message you back.
It's just a theory.
Unnecessary attack since you haven't actually read his profile.
Just because you so carefully crafted and manipulated something to "look just so" it doesn't mean you are entitled to attention. But, actually, it offers some insight as to why those you may perceive as more engaging may simply skip over it.
When I made my profile, yes I spent time and yes I put a lot of myself into it... but I didn't spend hours on it. I grabbed a few photos that represented me- one that was very recent and several from various places and activities- I often put a recent one. I would randomly add something to my profile if i thought of something funny and people who knew me said it was much like having a conversation with me rather than like a carefully constructed advertisement of myself.
I don't think you really get what it's like on dating sites for guys. Dating sites are much more competitive for guys. Most women don't reply regardless of how good your profile is. After 10s of non-responses it's easy to start to feel like every single thing you put there is being scrutinized and judged with a fine toothed comb. The reality is the majority of messages from guys are ignored.
Maybe his profile is too serious and sounds pretentious, but a whole hell of a lot of females have really pretentious profiles too, like having bullet-point lists of what they want their "perfect man" to be. It's like they're placing an order.
I think the word "entitled" should be banned. Where you see "entitlement" I see extreme frustration. It seems like most people who stay in this forum really don't have the ability to empathize. It's just one giant pissing contest. Frustrated guys would be better off posting in the haven or something.
Just because you so carefully crafted and manipulated something to "look just so" it doesn't mean you are entitled to attention. But, actually, it offers some insight as to why those you may perceive as more engaging may simply skip over it.
I love how you use words like Manipulate to make me out as a bad person, because I told you I spent hours on my profile. Are you for real?
So anyone who puts any effort into something they care about is being Manipulative?
Jeez when you put it that way, you can make anyone sound like a horrible person. Then you say it's no surprise people would skip over it, when you haven't seen it? I think you are the one who comes off as a jerk.
In other words you "manipulated" your audience to "perceive" that you're an amiable person, which offers some insight into [insert snide remark here]
See how easy it is?
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