just-me
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just-me
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the documentary called the big chill is about a big ice age not a mini one. so the causes are different. i didn't watch it before posting. but i guess it is relevant too. so ill leave it.
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Peko
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It just snowed 2 days ago where I am, so would think if it was truly global warming rather than seasons shifting & stuff, it would no longer snow.  But I'm no meteorologist or anything like that... 
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SilverStar
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| I don't know about an ice age, but the weather surely has changed in that last couple years. It has been all over the place as of late. Did we cause this? Probably some of it, but maybe not all of it. |
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AussieAspie
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I also realise that theres something changing with the sun and that it has a lot to do with Earths weather. I wouldn't however entirely trust NASA's press realeases on what is actually happening to the sun. Their satelites seem to go offline for days without any data showing why. I also can't find the November solar AP index figures, but Octobers came out straight away. Smells like some sort of cover up to me, anyway.....
We had a heatwave in south Australia in November (spring) and now that its summer the temp is lower than average. The weather sure is crazy and the sun is behaving strangely. |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Either way, I am in favor of it. Change is good.
There is one outstanding period of climate, the last 500 years, stable, good crops year after year, nothing like it in the records. Heat, ice, 1500 year dust storms, are the normal weather.
The Government wants to take charge of the weather? That is not in the Constitution! |
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Ambivalence
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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We're still in an Ice Age. The large masses of ice at the poles are a dead giveaway. 
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EC
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| Pseudo-science alert. The stuff about sunflares popped up before a misinformation movie called "The Big Global Warming Swindle". The so-called "Scientist" who tried pushing it was laughed out of any academic setting he tried peddling it in, and the graph he tried to use to prove it was manipulated. |
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leejosepho
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:20 am Post subject: Re: global warming or a new ice age? |
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| just-me wrote: | | The media ... I'm guessing ... they don't want to confuse the population when [others] are trying to pass laws to limit emissions. |
That is the bottom line: Facts confuse agendas.
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Jacoby
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| EC wrote: | | Pseudo-science alert. The stuff about sunflares popped up before a misinformation movie called "The Big Global Warming Swindle". The so-called "Scientist" who tried pushing it was laughed out of any academic setting he tried peddling it in, and the graph he tried to use to prove it was manipulated. |
Funny you say that. What's too say these other scientists didn't conspire against this other scientist? There is a A LOT of money tied up in this and it's highly politicized I can see why they would. |
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Oregon
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Global warming or not.. it's not good to live in a garbage dump. We need to learn to clean up after ourselves. Living in a toxic environment is not healthy for us or the 'little white bunny rabbits"
Air pollution is responsible for a number of heath conditions, and at times in our past was so bad it killed people.
Just look at the number of 'superfund' clean-up sites around our country to see how bad we were (and still are). Out of the 600,000+ contaminated site listed with the EPA, almost 2,000 post an immediate public risk and are scheduled for clean-up.
You mom does live here, so let's clean up after ourselves.
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CRD
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| Oregon wrote: | Global warming or not.. it's not good to live in a garbage dump. We need to learn to clean up after ourselves. Living in a toxic environment is not healthy for us or the 'little white bunny rabbits"
Air pollution is responsible for a number of heath conditions, and at times in our past was so bad it killed people.
Just look at the number of 'superfund' clean-up sites around our country to see how bad we were (and still are). Out of the 600,000+ contaminated site listed with the EPA, almost 2,000 post an immediate public risk and are scheduled for clean-up.
You mom does live here, so let's clean up after ourselves. |
Good point., speeking of that the sun came out time to shut off the extra lights |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nature is self cleaning, first it will scourer the surface with a three mile thick ice brush, grind everything to powder, then melt and wash most into the oceans. Each time, three times in the last 35,000 years, a new surface of fresh ground rock ready for plants.
Out of the last 165,000 years 20,000 were warm, only 5,000 as warm as today, and you are complaining? |
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Vexcalibur
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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It is typical to claim that reduced temperatures in some parts of the world proves global warming wrong.
I always hated the 'global warming' name as 'climate change' is much more accurate. The average temperature rises but that carries consequences some of which are lower temperatures in some parts of the world.
I hope the audience is smart enough to recognize there is indeed a climate change. The causes and whether there is anything man can do to stop it is what is not a certain fact.
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ruveyn
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| Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| SilverStar wrote: | | I don't know about an ice age, but the weather surely has changed in that last couple years. It has been all over the place as of late. Did we cause this? Probably some of it, but maybe not all of it. |
The weather changed here in Monroe Twp. N.J. two days ago. It actually snowed in December, oh my!
It is not clear to what extent human activity has driven the recent warming epoch. That is the problem. There are other potential factors which have not been eliminated properly. Someday we will have real climate science and figure this out.
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