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29 Sep 2010, 3:11 am

For lack of a bettter phrasing for the title I am using that as the title. Baasically that, I've seen on these forums that people have gotten angry at how it is 'cool' to be a nerd & how hipsters/indie people all flok towards being interested in chiptunes/nintendo core, video gaming (obscure gaming at that) and electronics. As an example of a hipster tv channel (yes, there is one - they even air a show titled I [heart] Hipsters], look @ current. http://current.com/. For (funny & not flattering) images of hipsters go on http://www.latfh.com/

Of course, this is biased against hipsters & many hipsters are decent people. But my point is this: are hipsters screwing over the nerd culture by the influx of 'normal' people into nerdy subcultures?


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29 Sep 2010, 3:47 am

Re-read this thread when you're sober and realize how ridiculous it is.



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29 Sep 2010, 5:55 am

All alternative cultures that become popular, have a pop or pulp phase where the earlier art house beginnings go mainstream, the founding mothers and fathers despise their spawn, and commercialisation really kicks in.

It happens to the best of every thing. When I started to surf in the 80's often only 5 guys in the water. Now more like 30, the vibes definitely have changed



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29 Sep 2010, 7:06 am

Yeah, I'd much rather have the NTs figure out that nerdiness is actually quite fun than have them marginalize nerds, because along with nerds they'll marginalize many autistics.


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29 Sep 2010, 12:21 pm

Warsie wrote:
For lack of a bettter phrasing for the title I am using that as the title. Baasically that, I've seen on these forums that people have gotten angry at how it is 'cool' to be a nerd & how hipsters/indie people all flok towards being interested in chiptunes/nintendo core, video gaming (obscure gaming at that) and electronics. As an example of a hipster tv channel (yes, there is one - they even air a show titled I [heart] Hipsters], look @ current. http://current.com/. For (funny & not flattering) images of hipsters go on http://www.latfh.com/

Of course, this is biased against hipsters & many hipsters are decent people. But my point is this: are hipsters screwing over the nerd culture by the influx of 'normal' people into nerdy subcultures?





I only have a faint (and possibly mistaken altogether) idea of what "chiptunes/nintendo core" is. I assuming this is a musical genre which appeals mainly to the under 30 crowd? If it's purely electronica-type music, I probably wouldn't like much of it.

As far as any forms of music of the past four decades.....I prefer rock, metal, new-age, punk, hardcore, folk, etc......In other words....musical in which the artists are using traditional instruments like guitar, piano, violin, etc....



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29 Sep 2010, 1:11 pm

How are chiptunes and video games relate-able to autism? They're not.



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29 Sep 2010, 1:15 pm

neh...I know someone who makes this type of stuff..and was making it before it was popular...he is 36...just a wee bit older than meeself...was making it at a time when it was not so easy to produce due to the technology available...it is rather impressive


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29 Sep 2010, 1:19 pm

It requires (or did) a sorta pretty technical/patient/obsessive mind to produce good quality stuff...my friend who was doing this a while back...though it is really well done...um...has got computer skillz.....only a few slightly autistic-ish traits....but...a computer science degree....IT occupation...etc...


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29 Sep 2010, 1:24 pm

Stellar wrote:
Re-read this thread when you're sober and realize how ridiculous it is.


I was sober when I posted it & I'm still sober now....so no :|


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29 Sep 2010, 1:28 pm

This phenomenon is not completely new...look at how long ago movies like "Welcome to the Dollhouse" were made....

If you have communication difficulties..you will have just as hard a time with non autistic nerd-core hipsters as you will with everybody else...


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29 Sep 2010, 1:34 pm

Warsie wrote:
For lack of a bettter phrasing for the title I am using that as the title. Baasically that, I've seen on these forums that people have gotten angry at how it is 'cool' to be a nerd & how hipsters/indie people all flok towards being interested in chiptunes/nintendo core, video gaming (obscure gaming at that) and electronics. As an example of a hipster tv channel (yes, there is one - they even air a show titled I [heart] Hipsters], look @ current. http://current.com/. For (funny & not flattering) images of hipsters go on http://www.latfh.com/

Of course, this is biased against hipsters & many hipsters are decent people. But my point is this: are hipsters screwing over the nerd culture by the influx of 'normal' people into nerdy subcultures?

Nintendocore isn't that hip. I post on some pretty hip music forums, and I might be the only person who listens to so much as HORSE the Band.

And, no.



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29 Sep 2010, 1:54 pm

It goes thru phases.....and "hipness" to some degree varies from region to region


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29 Sep 2010, 2:05 pm

Horus wrote:
I only have a faint (and possibly mistaken altogether) idea of what "chiptunes/nintendo core" is. I assuming this is a musical genre which appeals mainly to the under 30 crowd? If it's purely electronica-type music, I probably wouldn't like much of it.


Chiptune is electronic music generated using video game electronics/hardware. As in people modify electronics to generate 16-bit sound.

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How are chiptunes and video games relate-able to autism? They're not.


It fits in with the theme of nerd cultures being amalgated into hipster & other neurotypical-dominated cultures, with varying effects to the original inhabitants of said culture (see gentrification for an IRL example)

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All alternative cultures that become popular, have a pop or pulp phase where the earlier art house beginnings go mainstream, the founding mothers and fathers despise their spawn, and commercialisation really kicks in.

It happens to the best of every thing. When I started to surf in the 80's often only 5 guys in the water. Now more like 30, the vibes definitely have changed


Ahh, that. TheyChangedItNowItSuck and BrokenBase on tvtropes articles. I see how many 'old school' rappers felt.

EDIT: in related news, people -have- posted this/questioned this on forums like 4chan before (yes I know...)


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29 Sep 2010, 3:00 pm

Surfman wrote:
All alternative cultures that become popular, have a pop or pulp phase where the earlier art house beginnings go mainstream, the founding mothers and fathers despise their spawn, and commercialisation really kicks in.

It happens to the best of every thing. When I started to surf in the 80's often only 5 guys in the water. Now more like 30, the vibes definitely have changed


So true. It's why Elvis Presley has so few black fans.



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29 Sep 2010, 3:19 pm

I never understood the term well and I never saw what is so wrong with them. To me they are just people living their lives.

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29 Sep 2010, 3:26 pm

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