Son getting evaluated soon, any special preparations?

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18 Oct 2010, 10:20 pm

Hello everyone,

I've been lurking off and on here for a little while since I first started down the road of the evaluation process. Now the day is coming (at least I think so) for the "real test". I'm wondering if I should come with any questions prepared or tell them about his behaviors? I told the first person who was like a gatekeeper about the behaviors (of which she and her superiors agreed for further evaluation), but I'm wondering if I need to tell the "tester" about them. As the day approaches, I wonder if I'll be doing enough for my son to get the best diagnosis.

For other parents who've been through this, are there any things you wished you should've done that you didn't or anything that you shouldn't have done and you did?



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18 Oct 2010, 10:25 pm

They'll have a ton of questions for you-there's nothing you need to prepare. If you have a baby book where your wrote down milestones it might be helpful to have those general time frames available for them.

I would suggest not to "prep" in anyway, especially not your child. They need to see him/her exactly the way they normally are. If it will make the testing go easier, pick a time of day and day of the week when they are well rested and not grumpy/resistant to the testing. Depending on the professional you are seeing, there will be a lot of tests involved but they're not the type you can "prep" for.



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18 Oct 2010, 10:29 pm

I suggest writing down everything you can think of that concerned you, with the best guesses of the dates you noticed it. They may also want to know details like what your pregnancy/birth was like, what age you started having concerns, family histories, things like that.


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18 Oct 2010, 11:38 pm

MomtoS wrote:
Hello everyone,

I've been lurking off and on here for a little while since I first started down the road of the evaluation process. . .

DISCLAIMER: Not a parent, am a person with Asperger's.

And it's also a process because some mental health professionals just aren't that good. I'd say at least 20% are big egoists and "their" diagnosis might just as well be etched in stone. And then there's another 30% or so who kind of in the middle, and who are sometimes good, sometimes more so-so.

My advice, hope for someone who's a reasonable individual, in part so you can be visibly surprised if they're not. And give yourself some time to process how good you feel about the diagnosis and how it was reached.

And remember, you have a right to a second opinion.



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19 Oct 2010, 10:03 am

My DS got a dx which I thought was inaccurate because I didn't know how to answer the questions properly. For instance, can "child" have a recripocal conversation?

I said yes, because my child can converse in a back and forth manner....IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS INTEREST. However, he cannot if you want to talk about anything else.

Does your child show you things, I said yes because if my child is interested in something he will show me... as a matter of fact he will go on for an hour about what new wrestling fact he has found..... But does he mentions other things or show me stuff in general....no.

Because I was filling out questionairres and didn't really know what the point of the questions were, my child did not get an AS dx. However, several other professionals in the field have told me that they do not feel that the test results were accurate.

All of that said, my child does not appear as obviously AS as many do - therefore it isn't surprising that with my not really understanding what the questions were - he got an NT dx. For many kids, that stuff wouldn't matter.



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19 Oct 2010, 10:59 am

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My DS got a dx which I thought was inaccurate because I didn't know how to answer the questions properly. For instance, can "child" have a recripocal conversation?

I said yes, because my child can converse in a back and forth manner....IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS INTEREST. However, he cannot if you want to talk about anything else.

Does your child show you things, I said yes because if my child is interested in something he will show me... as a matter of fact he will go on for an hour about what new wrestling fact he has found..... But does he mentions other things or show me stuff in general....no.

Because I was filling out questionairres and didn't really know what the point of the questions were, my child did not get an AS dx. However, several other professionals in the field have told me that they do not feel that the test results were accurate.

All of that said, my child does not appear as obviously AS as many do - therefore it isn't surprising that with my not really understanding what the questions were - he got an NT dx. For many kids, that stuff wouldn't matter.


See, this is a bit of what I was afraid of. He has aspie traits, but he may not seem that way to people who aren't around him daily.

I think I'm a bit nervous about answering questions accurately. There is so much about him that I'm afraid I won't be able to properly express it all for a professional.



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19 Oct 2010, 11:56 am

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Kailuamom wrote:
My DS got a dx which I thought was inaccurate because I didn't know how to answer the questions properly. For instance, can "child" have a recripocal conversation?

I said yes, because my child can converse in a back and forth manner....IF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HIS INTEREST. However, he cannot if you want to talk about anything else.

Does your child show you things, I said yes because if my child is interested in something he will show me... as a matter of fact he will go on for an hour about what new wrestling fact he has found..... But does he mentions other things or show me stuff in general....no.

Because I was filling out questionairres and didn't really know what the point of the questions were, my child did not get an AS dx. However, several other professionals in the field have told me that they do not feel that the test results were accurate.

All of that said, my child does not appear as obviously AS as many do - therefore it isn't surprising that with my not really understanding what the questions were - he got an NT dx. For many kids, that stuff wouldn't matter.


See, this is a bit of what I was afraid of. He has aspie traits, but he may not seem that way to people who aren't around him daily.

I think I'm a bit nervous about answering questions accurately. There is so much about him that I'm afraid I won't be able to properly express it all for a professional.


Yes, I had the same concern. Just like when I told my family that we suspected AS, they didn't see the same behaviors that we did (now they do though).

I treated my sons eval the same way I treated his IEP meetings. I spent several weeks compiling notes and questions for several reasons. First, I don't do very well with being on the spot. I need time to think about a question and don't usually answer well when I feel rushed. Second, my memory is not so good so notes help with that. Finally, because I want to give the evaluator as complete of a picture as possible. The evaluation itself is just a snapshot and I feel that in order to get the most accurate diagnosis, it's best to be as thorough as possible. I'm not a doctor so how can I really know what's important information and what's not? I feel it's better to let them know everything. That being said, I always seem to forget the milestones and never remember to bring those notes :? . Oh well, nobody's perfect!



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19 Oct 2010, 12:01 pm

If they do an ADOS (which they SHOULD) they will find the limitd reciprocal interactions. If your evaluator/professional is competent (and that is a BIG IF because it's hard to find a competent one) they will see the AS. The questionaires were not as weighted as the ADOS and other tests involving my daughter. However, they do use them and it is best to answer truthfully to what you have seen in the past month or so (instead of looking back over his lifetime).



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20 Oct 2010, 9:49 pm

First of all, let me point out that I'm not a parent (now now, don't start throwing tomatoes at the stage ;)). However, I've been through a very unpleasant evaluation for ADD in my preteens, and I want to share. When I was in 6th grade, my stupid teacher didn't like that I wasn't paying attention in her class, and brought up the idea to my parents to have me evaluated; they agreed.

...10 days later...............
The psychologist sat me down at a table, and started the basic introductions and explanations of the whole procedure. That part felt a little patronizing, but I know it was "just business". Then she took out the test materials, and proceeded to ask me questions. The way she acted the whole time made me extremely anxious. The session lasted about two hours. The tests were scored, and the results were given at the next session. (This whole ordeal is described in great detail here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt103400.html).

Most of those questions caught me completely off guard! I ended up failing the evaluation miserably! Well, the shrink found nothing close to ADD, but the tests showed "immature emotional development". She gave the results to me and my parents at the same time. My mother was crying, my father was p*ssed off, and I sat there like a ghost watching them. The shrink added insult to the injury by telling them to share their feelings (!). If I had known what those tests were going to be, I'd have studied, using any encyclopedias I could find in the library (it was in 1995; I didn't even know about the internet yet).

...15 years later...............
Here I am today. I think you should spend a lot of time preparing your son for the evaluation. You didn't say what it was for, but giving him an overview of the tests would do wonder. We have internet now; search for "[name of son's condition] evaluation". Give him the gist of each test he'll have to take; no need to give individual questions if accuracy is your concern. That, plus a social story of what the exam will be like. Otherwise he might misunderstand the whole point of the test and skew his results in the process. I know I did.



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20 Oct 2010, 10:39 pm

Uh, thanks, Aspie1. My son is only 4 so I doubt I'll be able to prep him for anything.



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22 Oct 2010, 12:28 am

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Did you study for your urine test, son?

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You should probably have a few questions prepared and written down.
Ask the doc about any DSM criteria you aren't quite sure you understand.
Ask them about tantrums versus meltdowns.
etc etc..

As for your son, I wouldn't think a 4 year old needs to know specifics about the tests - he's not going to be asked to give essay responses at that age - just warn him that there's going to be a long day in a strange place answering questions. And ask him if he wants to bring his favourite [whatever] with him and feed him his favourite breakfast.



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22 Oct 2010, 11:50 am

For us the evaluation really was a PROCESS. It was not done and over with in one day. It played out over a matter of months. I'm sure every set of docs, school personnel, etc. have their own version of how the process goes so it's tough to give you specific advice. There should be at least two major parts to the evaluation - a lenghty series of questions for you to answer and one-on-one evaluation of your child with therapists/specialists. A third aspect that became very poignant in my son's dx was an in-class observation. DS was so charming, smart, funny for the most part with the 5 different therapists/specialists that talked to him over the course of 2 lenghty evaluation appoinments they were very borderline about dx him with anything. When the psychologist and then the autism specialist visited his pre-school classroom, the light went on! His interaction, or rather lack there of, with other children and his propensity for getting over-stimulated in the classroom environment were both key aspects that led to the dx of HFA (the autism specialist says she would have called it Asperger's but the school system doesn't recognize that as a separate category anymore so they just call it HFA).

The queustionaires that I filled out seemed never ending and I felt a bit overwhelmed at times. One set kept asking if I thought my son was on level, below level or way below level in certain areas as compared to his peers. Well, my answer to many of those questions was "He's way above his peers in that area". Thankfully that questionaire was done verbally with the autism specialist so she could figure out how to score my answers when it was "None of the above". One thing I think helped for me was that we have an older NT son which I felt gave me a bit of a basis for comparison. If your child has no siblings and hasn't been in a school or pre-school setting yet, it may be harder to judge those things that may be out of the ordinary.



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22 Oct 2010, 3:19 pm

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For us the evaluation really was a PROCESS. It was not done and over with in one day. It played out over a matter of months. I'm sure every set of docs, school personnel, etc. have their own version of how the process goes so it's tough to give you specific advice. There should be at least two major parts to the evaluation - a lenghty series of questions for you to answer and one-on-one evaluation of your child with therapists/specialists. A third aspect that became very poignant in my son's dx was an in-class observation. DS was so charming, smart, funny for the most part with the 5 different therapists/specialists that talked to him over the course of 2 lenghty evaluation appoinments they were very borderline about dx him with anything. When the psychologist and then the autism specialist visited his pre-school classroom, the light went on! His interaction, or rather lack there of, with other children and his propensity for getting over-stimulated in the classroom environment were both key aspects that led to the dx of HFA (the autism specialist says she would have called it Asperger's but the school system doesn't recognize that as a separate category anymore so they just call it HFA).

The queustionaires that I filled out seemed never ending and I felt a bit overwhelmed at times. One set kept asking if I thought my son was on level, below level or way below level in certain areas as compared to his peers. Well, my answer to many of those questions was "He's way above his peers in that area". Thankfully that questionaire was done verbally with the autism specialist so she could figure out how to score my answers when it was "None of the above". One thing I think helped for me was that we have an older NT son which I felt gave me a bit of a basis for comparison. If your child has no siblings and hasn't been in a school or pre-school setting yet, it may be harder to judge those things that may be out of the ordinary.


Thanks so much for this. I'm realizing that this is indeed a PROCESS. I actually thought we would be doing the ADOS today, but we didn't. First it was the ped, then a "gatekeeper" who listened to my explanation of the issues, then I think he was a dev. ped today who asked us lots of questions and did a simple physical exam. NOW, we're being referred for the ADOS. This all started back in July. Now there's another appointment, again.

I definitely am relating to Bomboloo, because my ds probably could fool anyone and he hasn't been in a classroom environment for me or anyone else to observe some real interactions (or lack thereof). After the visit today, I am seriously thinking of having a playdate/observation evaluation of my own in my house. I think my unofficial "findings" from that will be helpful.



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22 Oct 2010, 5:39 pm

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Glad my thoughts can help. Hang in there! It sounds like it would be good if one of the people involved with your son could observe him outside of the clinical setting. Good luck1