How I went from silent to social and how you can too

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06 Jan 2011, 9:31 am

I was silent and had absolutely nothing to talk about when I was young and this was mainly because of how I obtain information in general. I was not much of a book reader, too much excess, not much worth for the information to page ratio and that's hundreds of pages of what-you-get-is-what-you-get. In high school I slowly became social by just hanging around others though I was still pretty much unable to talk about much other than saying I don't know, I kind of like this or that or I dislike this or that.

The internet was my personal savior as it allowed me to ask questions and engage others in the context that I best understood. I debated religion on AOHELL until I exhausted the topic because religious people ultimately and rather quickly fall back to circular arguments and slowly as I read contrasting philosophies and dared to understand the people who were all apparently evil I went from uninformed television watcher with nothing better to do and evolved in to a television hating person who you could talk to for a few million hours and not get bored with.

Of course if you're not good at conversations there are a few key things you can do to break the ice. Basically ask questions like where someone is from, if they've always lived in the area/state, where they went to school or if you're both in school what they like or dislike, talk about music and movies, what you're reading/watching/learning, family, friends and about that jerk who's face you just want to throw a frigin cow at. RAWR! Monkey see monkey do though eventually you refine yourself over time and I can't emphasize how much the goal of self-correction can be.

Personally I've always had an interest in philosophy, understanding existence and how I understood existence. Our perceptions are limited and biased so how could I look at existence more objectively? Ten years ago if you told me that you could freeze to death at 4,500F degrees I would have laughed though today I'd be thrilled to know that you were curious about the various layers of the atmosphere and have read about the thermosphere.

Public speaking can suck especially talking in front of people though practice makes perfect and the best way to become a good speaker is to gain confidence and so the best way to gain confidence is to read, learn and talk about your favorite subjects. Some people might feel they don't have much to say and some people might feel they have no clue how to say so much without being so verbose. If you feel you're too verbose think of how to summarize something for a title or introduction under the notion that you'll be able to cover the important details in a large following of text that you're good at. If you don't feel you have much to say see how you relate to a subject and if it inspires you or triggers some emotion such as protecting a group of people you identify with or merely speaking out facts and trying to create relations between two things that have some relation under the notion of a goal of explaining a topic at some point to someone who isn't informed though would be interested. Walk around your house and speak out-loud while no one is around and eventually your confidence will build over time as you become increasingly certain about what you're talking about. ...and when you take a good figurative punch to the gut like we all do when you find out you're wrong about something correct yourself under the notion that ignoring even a small the hole in your boat could eventually sink a large ship if left unfixed.

This might seem rather obvious to a lot of people though when you haven't found your source that you're able to learn in the context that best suites you then finding what you're receptive to should be your primary goal. I should add that over time you'll find things aren't always what they seem (I was young and voted democratic though after learning about many things including communism I've since voted conservative). Agendas like communism attempt to paint the world as shallow and lacking in origins and content however you have to break through their media monopoly and research things for yourself. Ask the questions you're not supposed to and understand why people you disagree with think the way they do. There will usually be maybe 80% of the stereotypical, 10% that have some sound idea, 4% that are a little too in to it to be able to summarize things and that 1% that can understand your level of understanding and explain their views in terms you can understand through good analogies.

An example of a topic that many people might not want to deal with though can quickly lead to many various ways is homosexuality. When I was younger I just thought they were a bunch of misunderstood weirdos and eventually thought they were entitled to rights. However as I became increasingly knowledgeable with philosophy I understood that rights are only entitled to natural groups. With further research found that communists are putting soy in to everything and chemicals in soy emulate female sexual hormones that will tell a male's body to start acting like a female's body, there literally is food that will turn you gay but you wouldn't know because those "evil hateful gay bashers" aren't given a chance to speak about the topic in the monopolized media. Those "evil people" were parents who didn't want their children poisoned through what they originally thought was healthy food or taken advantage of socially by communists who do unbelievable amounts of social networking in order to find and take advantage of people to pressure and manipulate in to homosexuality, drugs, drinking and other dead end roads. Existence is much more different than your default perception will lead you to believe. Commies should be well advised by the way that I will absolutely decimate any attempt to confuse others as communist replies and retorts are devastatingly predictable and lies can't hold a candle to the truth.

Find your medium for learning and figure out what interests appeal to you and go nuts learning, pretty simple strategy and so long as your ability to ask, "Why?" hasn't been killed from watching thousands of hours of television even the kid that got picked on when they were young can go further than all of those peers combined. :wink:



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07 Jan 2011, 6:55 am

Mate, you were doing fine with your post until you reached the bit about homosexuality.

Are you a critical thinker? Then show some consistency in your critical thinking.



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07 Jan 2011, 6:57 am

If you think there was inconsistency please feel free to point it out.



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07 Jan 2011, 7:51 am

Commies?? ----> Soy ----->homosexual --?????--> grand scheme of some sort. Perhaps the above commenter took issue with this series of transitions; maybe you could elaborate.



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07 Jan 2011, 8:28 am

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i do not need to be taught how to talk to people.

i choose not to bother talking to people because it is futile. people will not remember what i say after a few days, and i could not be bothered to integrate their replies into my sensorium.

people spend their whole lives talking to other heads, and it is all going to become dust after we die.

why must i bother framing things to say to people when in 200 years time we will be long gone and mildew will be growing on the inside walls of our empty skulls.

what i say to anyone will not reverberate for eternity and so it is futile to bother communicating.

when i see a picture of an ancient skull, i think "there once was a brain in that skull that had lots to say, and other unfound skulls that once had brains in them heard what the brain in the skull i am looking at said".

but the conversations of average people in antiquity are entirely gone, and they left no trace of their existence.

i imagine a picture of an ancient skull that i am looking at had a brain in it which may have thought some very beautiful thoughts that were very compelling to whoever they told them to, but now all there is is a skull with dirt clogged in the brain case and anthropologists carefully remove the dirt and blow away the dust when they are nearly
finished getting rid of the dirt and they hold the skull in their hands and see nothing but the teeth structure and the orbital eye socket characteristics etc.

the skull they hold in their hands may have been someone they may have fallen in love with if they were alive when the owner of the skull was alive and that person could have been someone who the holder of the skull would say knows their heart and speaks a script of their lives.

everything crumbles and becomes progressively further and further away from the present, so i do not see why i should waste my time saying stuff to people when i will be that skull one day.


yes i am not thinking positively at the moment.



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07 Jan 2011, 4:07 pm

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How I went from silent to social and how you can too


i do not need to be taught how to talk to people.

i choose not to bother talking to people because it is futile. people will not remember what i say after a few days, and i could not be bothered to integrate their replies into my sensorium.

people spend their whole lives talking to other heads, and it is all going to become dust after we die.

why must i bother framing things to say to people when in 200 years time we will be long gone and mildew will be growing on the inside walls of our empty skulls.

what i say to anyone will not reverberate for eternity and so it is futile to bother communicating.

when i see a picture of an ancient skull, i think "there once was a brain in that skull that had lots to say, and other unfound skulls that once had brains in them heard what the brain in the skull i am looking at said".

but the conversations of average people in antiquity are entirely gone, and they left no trace of their existence.

i imagine a picture of an ancient skull that i am looking at had a brain in it which may have thought some very beautiful thoughts that were very compelling to whoever they told them to, but now all there is is a skull with dirt clogged in the brain case and anthropologists carefully remove the dirt and blow away the dust when they are nearly
finished getting rid of the dirt and they hold the skull in their hands and see nothing but the teeth structure and the orbital eye socket characteristics etc.

the skull they hold in their hands may have been someone they may have fallen in love with if they were alive when the owner of the skull was alive and that person could have been someone who the holder of the skull would say knows their heart and speaks a script of their lives.

everything crumbles and becomes progressively further and further away from the present, so i do not see why i should waste my time saying stuff to people when i will be that skull one day.


yes i am not thinking positively at the moment.

You have a point, but it's also true that while some of the things we say will fall into a void, some of them will affect the person we are talking to and they could in turn affect someone else, so that some ideas and interactions will have a ripple effect. Who knows, you might say something whose impact will end up in a book or a work of art, and your words will have had a lasting effect.

And of course I could point out that if you really felt that way you wouldn't have bothered to write this post. :)



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07 Jan 2011, 7:28 pm

lambrisprime wrote:
Commies?? ----> Soy ----->homosexual --?????--> grand scheme of some sort. Perhaps the above commenter took issue with this series of transitions; maybe you could elaborate.


Right.

I guess commies existed in the days of the ancient Greeks, too, I suppose.



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11 Jan 2011, 7:29 pm

Harp seals, grizzly bears, dolphins, bonobos, chimpanzees, bedbugs, black swans, albatross, hedgehogs. All these animals practice homosexuality.