I have Asperger's and I want to go into law enforcement.

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28 Sep 2011, 9:13 pm

when I was kid, always wanted to be a cop. now I'm in school and I know I want to do something in law enforcement. I'm thing I want to be a K9 unit because I like dog. good Idea?



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28 Sep 2011, 10:51 pm

Well, I'm a corrections officer, so I can hopefully give some advice. First, you have to be good with people. Every day you'll meet people, mostly in negative situations, and you'll often have to either persuade or order them to do something they do not want to do. It takes good people skills to do this.

Next, you have to be able to work under stress. You'll get your first taste of this in the academy, where the instructors will literally scream in your face if you do something wrong, or even if you didn't. They need to find out who can and can not deal with working under pressure, and that's a good first step in weeding people out.

Third, you have to have a thick skin. A significant chunk of people out there will hate you only for the uniform you put on, and will tell you to your face that you're a Nazi Pig High school dropout who became a cop because you're too dumb to do anything else but bully people around. And no, you don't get to tazer them.

If you're serious about pursuing it, now's the time, while you're young. If you do well on the entrance exam, are in good physical shape (get started now if you're not) and have a clean criminal record, you should have no problem.


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28 Sep 2011, 10:57 pm

One more thing: If you want a badge, you can NOT tell them about your Asperger's. It's not something they'd think to ask, but they WILL ask if you've ever seen a psychologist or psychiatrist for any reason. I hate to say this, but you're going to have to lie if you want this job. At least about that.


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28 Sep 2011, 11:05 pm

cops have to be really good with people, as do doctors, which i gradually failed at. i'm back working with people, but i've had over 50 years to figure out how to deal with my low social intelligence and some of the lessons cost me a lot. you might try talking to a canine cop (take him out for lunch) to see how he actually spends his day. if you're still interested after that, read everything you can get your hands on about communication, assertiveness, body language, etc. and start to practice with friends what you've read. the reason i couldn't be a cop is that, in a conversation, my answers come slowly. in that pause, i could get shot. i think you're picking a difficult road, but i never say never.



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28 Sep 2011, 11:24 pm

sacrip wrote:
One more thing: If you want a badge, you can NOT tell them about your Asperger's. It's not something they'd think to ask, but they WILL ask if you've ever seen a psychologist or psychiatrist for any reason. I hate to say this, but you're going to have to lie if you want this job. At least about that.

Even if you lie about it , you will still have to undergo extensive psychological testing. You might be able to downplay what you visited a psychiatrist or psychologist for, but that's a maybe. My brother is a firefighter and a lot of his psychological testing was done when he was tired and worn out or in stressful situations.


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28 Sep 2011, 11:48 pm

the typical neuropsychological tests (MMPI, for example) don't pick up asperger's. i took the MMPI twice (and hours of other tests). it came out once with low empathy, but that's the only clue it gave. never got diagnosed. figured out i had asperger's on researching it when my nephew was diagnosed a few months ago. made sense of my life.

with all that psychological testing, how do they let folks who will beat an unarmed homeless man to death onto the force?



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29 Sep 2011, 11:39 am

thanks for all the help. I know I want to go into law enforcement and its not like something I know nothing about. I have volunteer at police stations for a few years before I got into college.



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02 Oct 2011, 10:12 pm

sacrip wrote:
Well, I'm a corrections officer, so I can hopefully give some advice. First, you have to be good with people. Every day you'll meet people, mostly in negative situations, and you'll often have to either persuade or order them to do something they do not want to do. It takes good people skills to do this.

Next, you have to be able to work under stress. You'll get your first taste of this in the academy, where the instructors will literally scream in your face if you do something wrong, or even if you didn't. They need to find out who can and can not deal with working under pressure, and that's a good first step in weeding people out.

Third, you have to have a thick skin. A significant chunk of people out there will hate you only for the uniform you put on, and will tell you to your face that you're a Nazi Pig High school dropout who became a cop because you're too dumb to do anything else but bully people around. And no, you don't get to tazer them.

If you're serious about pursuing it, now's the time, while you're young. If you do well on the entrance exam, are in good physical shape (get started now if you're not) and have a clean criminal record, you should have no problem.
I'm glad i found this thread, someone other then me wants to become a cop too! :D

I think in order to pick up some people skills (this is to animefan) I think it would be best to work in a hypersocial job for about a year or two. I'm talking about jobs where you meet a lot of customers and get to see people in almost all their moods, because you will learn about how you tend to react and it will give you a way to practice some of your social skills. I work as a cashier, and it taught me so much in how to deal with a range of people and expand my socialisation. It also gave me an idea of my limits, and what to do when they get exceeded.

The only thing that I don't know if it would be possible for you to do (since you are already diagnosed with an ASD) would be to go into the military for a few years. This is the other part where you would learn to see how you might deal with certain stressful situations. I was in the military and what I found out about myself was that I could tolerate most situations, but I hated getting yelled at by a superior. Not by other (equal ranking) people, but by superiors. It was because I was afraid of getting into trouble, and that would terrify me. I wasn't bothered by drill sergents, but the liutenant walking by would make me quake because they can make your life hell if you fail to salute in time. D:

Hope this helps :)


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04 Oct 2011, 10:30 pm

Your extactly like me, at home I pretend with my bb guns that I am bounty hunter or police. I always dreamed of becoming a bounty hunter, being in the army, or any carrer with guns and authority



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06 Oct 2011, 6:16 am

Tomorrow marks my 20th anniversary as a police officer, meaning that I am now eligible to start collecting my pension anytime I choose. Retirement currently scheduled for June 20, 2012. :D

I have found that police work is actually very well-suited to my Aspie traits. For starters, there is a lot of solo time while on patrol in between calls. Also, the interactions with the public aren't social interactions and they typically follow a fairly easy script. Domestic dispute? Find out what happened by interviewing the parties involved, look for independent evidence of a crime, assess whether EMS response is needed, fill out necessary reports, arrest when appropriate. Traffic stop? This is the law you violated, do a DMV check, check for alcohol/drug impairment, write necessary ticket. All very simple and logical once you have it down. Plus you get all sorts of training in reading body language and interview techniques. I have also learned that I really have no fear so don't get excited in situations that most would find stressful. It's actually a great line of work for an Aspie.

But like others have said, I'd keep the Aspergers thing to yourself. No need to lie. Just don't volunteer the information. When I joined the force, Aspergers wasn't a diagnosis yet and I didn't realize I had any sort of disorder ... so it was easy for me. During the polygraph, they told me I was unusually honest, which is kind of funny and makes perfect sense in retrospect. I'm actually pondering getting an official diagnosis pre-retirement and informing my agency on my way out the door as a way of demonstrating that the job is perfectly within the capabilities of an Aspie.

Good luck!



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07 Oct 2011, 12:21 pm

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Tomorrow marks my 20th anniversary as a police officer, meaning that I am now eligible to start collecting my pension anytime I choose. Retirement currently scheduled for June 20, 2012. :D

I have found that police work is actually very well-suited to my Aspie traits. For starters, there is a lot of solo time while on patrol in between calls. Also, the interactions with the public aren't social interactions and they typically follow a fairly easy script. Domestic dispute? Find out what happened by interviewing the parties involved, look for independent evidence of a crime, assess whether EMS response is needed, fill out necessary reports, arrest when appropriate. Traffic stop? This is the law you violated, do a DMV check, check for alcohol/drug impairment, write necessary ticket. All very simple and logical once you have it down. Plus you get all sorts of training in reading body language and interview techniques. I have also learned that I really have no fear so don't get excited in situations that most would find stressful. It's actually a great line of work for an Aspie.

But like others have said, I'd keep the Aspergers thing to yourself. No need to lie. Just don't volunteer the information. When I joined the force, Aspergers wasn't a diagnosis yet and I didn't realize I had any sort of disorder ... so it was easy for me. During the polygraph, they told me I was unusually honest, which is kind of funny and makes perfect sense in retrospect. I'm actually pondering getting an official diagnosis pre-retirement and informing my agency on my way out the door as a way of demonstrating that the job is perfectly within the capabilities of an Aspie.

Good luck!
That is awesome :D

I think what it is, is that there is a negative preconception of what Asperger's is supposed to look like. I think this is based on the behavior of Asperger children, rather then what the person acts like (and knows) when they are an adult. If they based their ideas rather on the grownups, I imagine that their perceptions would shift favorably. But that's just my theory :wink:


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11 Oct 2011, 3:18 pm

I have thought about going into Law Enforcement, as it is somewhat of a family tradition. I would like to pose a question:

Should the approach to Law Enforcement be proactive or reactive?


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11 Oct 2011, 9:04 pm

PM wrote:
Should the approach to Law Enforcement be proactive or reactive?


I know this may be a bit of a cop-out (no pun intended), but I think there's room for both. Speaking strictly for myself, I have always taken the reactionary approach. I don't stick my nose where it doesn't belong, but at the same time will respond to any call I get, whether big or small. I have excelled as a 911 responder throughout the patrol part of my career, but I'm also the last guy you would want as a DARE officer or giving a speech to pretty much anyone about anything. At the same time, I have seen guys who perform these community policing functions very well but are nowhere to be found when a call goes out.

It is clear that society in this day and age demands that the police be both proactive and reactive and it is up to the agency to figure out which officers excel at what and assign them accordingly. I have never been identified as an Aspie but people know without knowing ... if that makes sense. Consequently, my assignments have always been tailored to my strengths so to speak.

Good luck if you decide to follow in the family tradition.



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19 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm

I agree with Catamount. I have over 20 years in law enforcement and have been very sucessful.



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19 Oct 2011, 1:38 pm

What about some of the non-patrol positions available. Remote surveillance, forensics, record keeping. Being on the force goes beyond being a cop. Doesn't it?



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19 Oct 2011, 1:51 pm

sacrip wrote:
One more thing: If you want a badge, you can NOT tell them about your Asperger's. It's not something they'd think to ask, but they WILL ask if you've ever seen a psychologist or psychiatrist for any reason. I hate to say this, but you're going to have to lie if you want this job. At least about that.


I don't think it's a good idea. If that is a factor in hiring, there is a reason for it.