I don't understand what is wrong with people (including me)

Post Reply New Topic

Every time I look out into the world outside my bedroom it just seems like I'm constantly reminded of what incosiderate selfish as*holes people are. I don't even think of myself as being above everyone because I know I've done some mean things in my life that I'm not so proud of, but there's been plenty of times where people have taken advantage of me and I watch as everyone I know takes advantage of someone and I am powerless to stop it because it makes no difference if I try to speak up. I also just get sick of the way humans are always hurting each other by murdering, stealing, and doing all kinds of nasty stuff to people out of self interest. It really seems like there's just no good in the world, and as horrible as this sounds I'm secretly hoping the world does end in 2012 just to get rid of all the horrible evil people in the world who don't deserve to live.

I don't even think anyone is really going to care that I feel this way, everyone is just out for number one and they only seem to help people if they think they can get something out of it. I don't care if this makes me sound like some kind of weird idiot, but I wish sometimes I lived in a TV show or movie where people actually have compassion and feel love towards others. Heck even the villains of movies seem to feel more love and compassion than most of the so-called "normal" people of the real world.

I'm sorry for ranting, I'm just feeling really depressed about how I have realized just how horrible the world really is. I just wish I could be a hermit and not have to deal with people ever again.

I understand you completely, as I feel the same way. I often think that the problem is that instead of there being a karmic system of cosmic justice, like a lot of people like to believe in, (because everyone feels they need justice!) we're living in a Darwinian universe where those who can manipulate people the best pass on their genes and behaviors to their offspring. I can't see it getting better, either.

Fingers crossed for the 2012 end of the world. It won't happen though It's kind of like expecting the world to end when Sunday comes, or when you get to the 30th of September. Just another end and beginning of an eon or something...

I too feel the same way, there are bad people out there and it's hard to find the good people in this world who you can relate to and possibly be friends with. People don't understand the way I feel but I do want them to know how I feel it's just that I don't know how to say it without pissing them off.

Myself, being an atheist, I do not believe in literal good or evil. Morality and ethical conduct are difficult enough without bringing god(s) in to the scenario. Bringing deities in to the equation just begs the question of whether said particular god is good because he/she only ever conducts themselves morally, or what they do is naturally defined as being 'good' of itself.

So, what we are left with are choices (if you believe that choices indeed exist, or you're a hard determinist) which are beneficial or non-beneficial. Say, for example, somebody does something cruel to you, then you'd say they did something that was non-beneficial. If someone did something for you that seemed good, that was because it benefited you. No need to bring good/evil in to it. Of course, one should always strive for the greatest utility for all, where utility is a commodity defined by it being of benefit to you or others. Still, it doesn't explain why people are such a-holes!

I've turned into such a pessemist, so I've started believing the universe is ultimately bad. There's no good or in-between, only the people who are skilled at manipulation and intimidation will survive and thrive and I lack both of these things. I'm an athiest too but that doesn't have much to do with the fact that I've come to realize that people generally are just selfish as*holes. It doesn't help that there's very little love in my family, but then again maybe I'm not alone and just about every family out there is as messed up as mine even the ones who pretend like they're happy and love each other.

Also I just want to say it's not that I really want the world to end in 2012, but I feel like the world is just hopeless and there's really no point for continuing to exist. The only reason I habg around is because I'm scared of the possability of not existing at all after death, and maybe it's because deep down I'm holding onto a hope that maybe some day life will get better.

I feel the same way, have for a long time. If I die I may not exist, but I don't really want to exist under these conditions much longer. So long as I don't just reincarnate or some crap, ugh. My family sucks too.

I've had that awful conviction, that the world is just plain cruel, at certain points but overall I have tried to see the good that is there because it is there. I know you just said you think TV etc paints an unrealistically rosy picture but the movie Our Idiot Brother is all about the two ways of seeing the world... and I really have experienced what it points out happens when you trust and love people, which is that they tend to trust and love you more back. It is a risk and takes faith in goodness to do, and sometimes you will be disappointed and heartbroken that as much as you try bad things happen to you sometimes... but (I know this is sounding like a sermon) the only salvation from a lack of love and trust is love and trust. I feel like I've written a paragraph like this maybe a hundred times on this board but it's because it's been so important in the happinesses that I've experienced. Also I'm not saying to stop using critical thinking or that you have to be an angel or anything, it can be taken in a hedonistic sense with the primary tenets I guess being do no harm and "sharing the love." Hippie ideas that are good.

I guess we're disillusioned from childhood. Back then, all the books had happy ever after style endings which gave us a hopeful view of the world, but later on left us disillusioned when we finally came to realise that there are no happy endings. People are born, then they die. People get married, then divorced. etc. etc. ad infinitum.

It's a pretty bleak world if every time something good happens, you don't need to hold your breath until something bad cancels it out. Just remember, you don't live happily ever after, you just die and are put in a ditch some where. Woo hoo life.

I always thought it was more the world is flawed in basic design. In many ways its constantly exhilirating, interesting and entertaining.

On the flipside.. its like there's a huge mountain hanging over the world waiting to come crashing down. Lack of resources, lack of talent, horribly organized on a national level.

Imagine two people trapped in a room.. all of a sudden there's no more oxygen except a tank that would let one of those people live.

There's only enough oxygen for one person to live long enough to be rescued. Who decides? Do they flip a coin? Lets push it a step further.. both have families or someone important at home that are utterly dependent on that persons well being.. for financial and emotional support.


Life is definitely unfair, definitely harsh at times. You can play the game the same way like the people you despise and gain some of their perks--or you can follow your own rules, possibly get very little to no praise but still be content in your own perception of things and know that you actually have some character and dignity.

I don't think the world is ultimately evil.. tho I do believe every single person has and will use that capacity to some degree. At least things most perceive as evil. I've never known someone who didn't qualify.. including myself. I deem myself a good person but i know i've been selfish before in the way i've acted, actions that didn't favor others.

I don't think you need to be deceptive or intimidating to survive, its difficult but its definitely doable.

I mean there are people who will choose to be selfless.. not on everything.. but at least enough to not be classified as evil, or heck even be considered a good person.

I guess I've seen the world as one giant mental institution, where everybody selfishly goes about hurting each other and themselves, and feel glorified in doing so. The world makes more sense in such a context. If only there was an outside!

I think I'm coming to the conclusion that leopards don't change their spots and humans don't change their destructive habbits. Maybe not everyone in the world is a horrible person but it seems like the ones out there who aren't so bad are quiet about it because they're afraid of being victimized by the people who are cruel and inconsiderate. Yet it sucks that I'm forced to deal with people all the time and can't even be open about how I really feel about them or else they make my life miserable. That's why I want so badly to just be able to live by myself and never have to deal with people again. Maybe that will happen some day but I have a feeling it will be a long ways away.

I find it really difficult to find people who are not bad people.
the world is a sucky place.