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12 Nov 2012, 2:30 pm

i'm now orded the parts in should have it built with in 7 days

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ocz ssd 120gb (boot disk for windows)
2tb wd (drive for games)
Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU (4 x 3.50GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 8Mb L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)
komputerbay 32gb ram (4x 8gb)
XFX CORE RADEON 7950 3GB
Corsair CMPSU-1050HX Professional Series HX1050 1050W Power Supply

what do you think?



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12 Nov 2012, 2:45 pm

You don't mention which motherboard....


For games, the difference between the 4-core i5 3570K and 4-core plus hyperthreading(HT) i7 3770k is extremely low.

That's a $100 difference you could put into a better class of motherboard and 3rd-party cooling system which will allow you to clock that i5 3570k even higher than the i7!

It'd also give you more money towards a bigger SSD and allowing you to install more apps to it directly. It's nice playing games with zero loading time. ;)

I'm also not a fan of OCZ SSD's... they have a higher fail rate. I'd go Intel 330, Samsung or Crucial M4.

WAY TOO MUCH RAM!! The games just don't use it! 16GB is even too much but cheap enough to justify. 32GB is a total waste. Put that money into a bigger, better SSD.

WAY TOO MUCH POWER SUPPLY! Unless you're running 3x nVidia cards, that's just wasted money for such a high end unit when you're barely using a third of what it can put out!



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12 Nov 2012, 2:45 pm

Please, I hope it's not the OCZ Agility series. I had one which stopped working after one month. It gave me nightmares and I swapped it for a Sandisk Extreme.
BTW, why such a beast? That kind of power can take over the world! Seems expensive, though. What kind of monitor and speakers are you using?



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12 Nov 2012, 2:56 pm

BlueMax wrote:
You don't mention which motherboard....


For games, the difference between the 4-core i5 3570K and 4-core plus hyperthreading(HT) i7 3770k is extremely low.

That's a $100 difference you could put into a better class of motherboard and 3rd-party cooling system which will allow you to clock that i5 3570k even higher than the i7!

It'd also give you more money towards a bigger SSD and allowing you to install more apps to it directly. It's nice playing games with zero loading time. ;)

I'm also not a fan of OCZ SSD's... they have a higher fail rate. I'd go Intel 330, Samsung or Crucial M4.

WAY TOO MUCH RAM!! The games just don't use it! 16GB is even too much but cheap enough to justify. 32GB is a total waste. Put that money into a bigger, better SSD.

WAY TOO MUCH POWER SUPPLY! Unless you're running 3x nVidia cards, that's just wasted money for such a high end unit when you're barely using a third of what it can put out!


i already paid for the stuff

the cpu fan will use 180watts (coolermaster v8)

the 32GB of ram will run microsoft flight good as that game recermends at least 16GB of ram

this is a show off pc with hardware good for benchmarking.

the 4 cores with ht with be useful with battlefield 3



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12 Nov 2012, 2:56 pm

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Please, I hope it's not the OCZ Agility series. I had one which stopped working after one month. It gave me nightmares and I swapped it for a Sandisk Extreme.
BTW, why such a beast? That kind of power can take over the world! Seems expensive, though. What kind of monitor and speakers are you using?

OCZ Agility 3



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12 Nov 2012, 3:14 pm

If it's bought, paid for and you have in your hand then it's too late.

If they've got the stuff but are building it for you, it's NOT! If you tell them you're still willing to spend the $1000+ you're throwing around, just on some different stuff, they'd be happy to change your order if they haven't cracked open the packages yet.

If it's purely for showing off, I hope its a crazy bling case. Heck, you could've gone whole-hog and went with the socket 2011 platform and the amazing 6-core (12-thread) 3930K processor.



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12 Nov 2012, 3:26 pm

i do not have the money for that.

its cost me around £1,100 for this build in total.

and the front 14cm fan has got leds on it



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12 Nov 2012, 3:31 pm

You didn't answer... are they building it for you and they're not done yet? You could ask them if they can change parts...



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12 Nov 2012, 3:34 pm

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You didn't answer... are they building it for you and they're not done yet? You could ask them if they can change parts...


i'm happy with the parts i went for.

most items are on Dispatching Soon:
XFX CORE RADEON 7950 800M 3GB D5 2x mDP HDMI DVI
Arctic Silver 5 3.5g Thermal Paste
Coolermaster V8 Cooler RR-UV8-XBU1-GP Fan
Corsair CMPSU-1050HX Professional Series HX1050 1050W Power Supply
Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU (4 x 3.50GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 8Mb L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)
Komputerbay 24GB (3x 8GB) PC3-10600 10666 1333MHz DDR3 1333 DRAM DIMM 240-Pin RAM Desktop Memory Dual Channel KIT 9-9-9-25 (as i already have 1 stick)

and 2 items have been Dispatched:
Icy Dock MB990SP-B Dual 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch SATA and IDE SSD/HDD Bracket
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green



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12 Nov 2012, 7:23 pm

how important is the cachle? im not a gamer but want the best possible pc for the money(by pc lean laptop) thle current laptop im looking at has a 2.7 ghz processor but only 1mb l2 cache?


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13 Nov 2012, 12:07 pm

Icy Dock MB990SP-B Dual 2.5 inch to 3.5 inch SATA and IDE SSD/HDD Bracket
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green
have arrived



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13 Nov 2012, 2:27 pm

mmcool wrote:
i'm now orded the parts in should have it built with in 7 days

specs:
ocz ssd 120gb (boot disk for windows)
2tb wd (drive for games)
Intel 3rd Generation Core i7-3770K CPU (4 x 3.50GHz, Ivy Bridge, Socket 1155, 8Mb L3 Cache, Intel Turbo Boost Technology 2.0)
komputerbay 32gb ram (4x 8gb)
XFX CORE RADEON 7950 3GB
Corsair CMPSU-1050HX Professional Series HX1050 1050W Power Supply

what do you think?


You would save yourself nearly 500 bucks by using an AMD chipset. Intel systems do indeed run 'faster' by about 15% compared to AMD ...but AMD is usually half the price. Considering the fact that systems become obsolete at around 6 years (meaning cpu & ram type) there's no reason to pay so much more for a mere 15% better performance. Heck, you just buy the one-step up AMD chip and still pay less than the intel equivalent.

A 1050 power supply is way overkill. You wont need more than 700W for this system.

32gb of ram is impressive but useless. OS and games do not usually recognize more than 8gb when performing most applications. Get 16gb only if you really feel the need or do video editing (heavily)... and in a few years you can just pick up the other 16gb much cheaper anyway if you really need it.

The video card is kickass... but again, why are you paying so much for it? Golden rule of gaming systems: Buy mid-range & replace often. For example, I bought a GT240 video card 4 years ago for 80 bucks. It is still in my system and I run all my games at medium to high video settings. It was only until this year and the new DX11 games that are coming out that I feel the need to upgrade it due to fps drops. 80 bucks in 4 years is damn good... and I'm planning on picking up an HD 7750 this coming thanksgiving for around 80 bucks too.

The gaming performance of the 7750 in practical terms is equivalent to that monster $350 card. True, my 7750 may not get the 120fps ...it may hit 60 to 80 fps on max settings on these games...but then again the human eye does not see more than 25fps so its no biggie. 4 years down the road ill probably pick up your card for 80 bucks and retain my ~80fps gaming performance.

Finally, make sure to review your SSD at tomshardware and such. SSD's are very finicky for gaming.



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13 Nov 2012, 6:14 pm

I'm using Intel because of the speed and how reliable intels are
I know the 32gb of ram is showing off but it does furter proof the pc
The graphics card is a beast for the upcoming crisis 3
And the SSD is only for windows 7
Games will run on a WD HDD cleiver green



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13 Nov 2012, 6:35 pm

Some parts are starting to arrive
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14 Nov 2012, 9:17 am

mmcool wrote:
I'm using Intel because of the speed and how reliable intels are


AMD is more reliable than Intel but they are indeed slightly slower. I've used AMD for a decade and its been very hard to find an Intel chip that could compete with an AMD. For example, right now I'm running a quad core 3.2ghz AMD phenom II black overclocked to 4 ghz. It beats an intel 3.5ghz quad core of the same generation of chip...and it cost me 1/3rd of it. One of the great things of AMD is their chips generally run cooler so you can OC them quite nicely.

Now, yes of course the Intel chip if OC'd would go to 4.2ghz but it'd be one hot beast and not very safe to run... its one damn expensive chip. Thats the nice thing of AMD... you can buy their chips for 80 to 120 bucks or so compared to the 190 to 220 for intel equivalents...and simply upgrade the cpu itself 2 years down the road to something much more powerful (AMD loves to keep their socket tech constant).

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And the SSD is only for windows 7
Games will run on a WD HDD cleiver green


You probably will install the game files in the magnetic disk but the OS uses the SSD for hard disk swap files and other processes. That is where the SSD's run into trouble with games and video editing stuff. The OS runs the game in the disk the OS is in.

Tom's hardware did a review a while back on SSD's for gaming and out of 12 they reviewed, only 2 received a passing grade. The other 10 had serious issues with their data transfer speeds and a couple even died from read/write limits reached (SSD's have a limited amount of read/write per byte due to their solid memory tech) during the testing. Hence why I mention to go through Tomshardware site first and read up on whatever latest reviews they've made. :)

It seems the stuff is already reaching you so its a moot point now anyway. Enjoy that monster :)



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14 Nov 2012, 6:13 pm

What arrived today:
Intel i7 3770k
Xfx r7950 3gb
Corsair pro hx-1050 1050w

But I got a issue
Ware the computer won't start
But I suspect that it's only shorting out on the case witch is easy to fix(rubber layerd screws) will test tommoww