watch the video of extradited asperger sufferer Talha Ahan

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01 Feb 2013, 9:54 am

Have you got a link please?



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01 Feb 2013, 10:15 am

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03 Feb 2013, 11:05 am

answeraspergers wrote:
Have you got a link please?
The OP's post is a link: move your mouse pointer over it and watch the cursor change.


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04 Feb 2013, 12:31 am

The US indictment against Syed Talha Ahsan was lodged on the 28th of June 2006.

It alleges that between 1997 and 2004 he, together with Babar Ahmad...

  • Conspired to provide material support to terrorists, knowing or intending that such support was to be used in furtherance of a conspiracy to kill, kidnap maim or injure persons or damage property in a foreign country and or to murder and attempt to murder US nationals abroad;
  • Provided and aided and abetted others to provide material support to terrorists, knowing or intending that such support would be used in furtherance of a conspiracy to kill, kidnap, maim or injure persons or damage property in a foreign country and or attempt to murder US nationals abroad; and
  • Conspired to kill, kidnap maim or injure persons or damage property in a foreign country.
Let him rot.


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04 Feb 2013, 7:42 am

Talha Ahsan

<i>Both allegedly used computers based in the UK to run illegal networks. In Ahmad and Ahsan’s case they allegedly ran Azzam Publications, a set of vicious pro-violence Islamist websites that encouraged Muslims to fight jihad in places like Afghanistan, Bosnia and Chechnya (this was before the 11 September attacks and therefore not a site that was encouraging attacks directly on the UK or US).</i>

Before 9/11, there were lots of these websites, anywhere across the world.
The website was taken down after 9/11. Can anyone patrol the Internet ? The allegations are baseless, very flimsy.

The UK government had to provide no evidence to extradite Babar Ahmad & Talha Ahsan.
There is no evidence to prosecute Babar and Talha in the UK, a key so called requirement for extradition.

Gary McKinnon and Talha Ahsan both have asperger syndrome, both have the same suicide risk, Talha was extradited before Gary was saved, with a gap of 10 days.

Talha Ahsan is the first person diagnosed with asperger syndrome extradited to a country he has never visited and placed in solitary confinement. It is unprecedented. He will not survive, several years in solitary confinement.



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04 Feb 2013, 7:59 am

Fnord wrote:
Let him rot.


Agreed; just another Islamist terrorist.

From what I've Googled, it's almost entirely Islamic extremists and their supporters that are campaigning for him.

Allowing scum like him to use Asperger's as a get-out-of-jail-free card will negatively impact on all of us, if we're not careful.



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04 Feb 2013, 9:38 am

Talha Ahsan denies the charges.

Gary McKinnon admits the hacking.

Talha Ahsan was extradited to solitary confinement so that Gary McKinnon could have his extradition blocked. Gary McKinnon was given special treatment, but both people have the same diagnosis of asperger syndrome and the same suicide risk.

Both Gary and Talha should not have been extradited.

Talha had the support from a wide variety of people, not just Muslims.

See, FREE TALHA AHSAN



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04 Feb 2013, 10:11 am

Although, having said that, could we not put him behind bars in this country? The charges look serious enough.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:17 am

There was no sufficient evidence to charge or prosecute Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan.

Talha Ahsan was detained for 6 years, before his extradition.

There is supposed to be an offence in both countries to cause an extradition but no offence in the UK.

The website, was taken down around 9/11.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:31 am

ALADDIN_1978 wrote:
There was no sufficient evidence to charge or prosecute Babar Ahmad and Talha Ahsan.

Talha Ahsan was detained for 6 years, before his extradition.

There is supposed to be an offence in both countries to cause an extradition but no offence in the UK.

The website, was taken down around 9/11.


He would deny the charges, wouldn't he?

And you know that he's innocent do you? You're regurgitating propaganda from Islamists - of course they're going to say that he's innocent no matter what, he's one of theirs remember! There's no excuse for us as people with Asperger's to fall into the same trap.

Anyway:

Running a website where well-known terrorists and their supporters met and where he helped spport to terrorists is pretty serious. (I don't care if it was pre 9/11 or not, it's still pretty serious. The authorities would feel the same way in Britain - I hope - if there were similar websites operating for, as an example, Irish Republican terrorists.

Conspiring to kill, kidnap maim or injure persons or damage property in a foreign country.

I suspect the other major point in this is that, unlike McKinnon, this man is wanted for terrorist offences. McKinnon, for all his arseholery, wasn't a terrorist.

That said, I do think we should be getting rid of the 2003 Extradition Act - it's an unfair and unbalanced piece of legislation.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:36 am

Talha Ahsan

There are lots of websites, today. In Syria, there is a conflict, there are gruesome videos, would the USA extradite a Syrian, from Syrian.

Before 9/11, there were lots of websites, legally downloaded in the UK and across the world.

The website showed, the conflicts in Chechnia , Afghanistan, Bosnia. It also highlighted the Iraqi sanctions, Palestine cause.

It is difficult to police the Internet.



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04 Feb 2013, 10:47 am

Fnord wrote:
It alleges that (...) Let him rot.
Oh, I know - it's such a chore treating everyone equally under the law and allowing due process. :roll:


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04 Feb 2013, 10:58 am

Cornflake wrote:
Fnord wrote:
It alleges that (...) Let him rot.
Oh, I know - it's such a chore treating everyone equally under the law and allowing due process. :roll:

Then let him rot in jail until a real trial in a real court of law determines the real degree of his guilt.

Trying him by public appeal on a social website is a misapplication of the term "Justice".

Just because he may be an Aspie does not automatically grant him a "Get Out of Jail Free" card.


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04 Feb 2013, 10:59 am

Fnord wrote:
Just because he may be an Aspie does not automatically grant him a "Get Out of Jail Free" card.


Yip.