Ask an Illuminati!

Post Reply New Topic

I am not a literal Illuminate. However, I hard core believe in their principles, democracy, agnosticism, science and a rejection of assumed authority (kings, presidents positioned because of international corporations...etc).
Conspiracy enthusiasts believe that our founding fathers were Illuminatis, and anyone that was against any established authority were anti-American. Call me anti-American but I will stand with my country's founding fathers.
PS: There are no more Illuminati. The "patriot" act destroyed the ideals of the Illuminati. Without the right to a trial,all our other rights are meaningless. In other words, I hope the conspiracy enthusiasts are correct and can give me an email address for the Illuminati, so I can join. Unfortunately, today the Illuminati are only a memory.

Yes ... there is no "Illuminati" ... never was, either ... it's all a myth, created by the Oculists ... who no longer exist ... Consequitur ad Finem Iustificare ...

I thought it meant Reptilian Freemasons. Any questions?

Hell no. I don't know about you, Misslizard, but I'm *not* doing masonry work pro bono.

^

Not exactly... One does not see it fully through logic alone...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hunterschwarz/s ... ti-is-real

And trust me... The folks that are in it, don't talk about it...

They make jokes like this.. INstead.

Last edited by aghogday on 05 Jul 2013, 4:05 am, edited 1 time in total.

They themselves go more by the name "Committee of 300", I think there are different groups, with similar World Government aims, that maybe work together to achieve said aims, but when said goal is achieved, infighting will occur.

Revelation 17
12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast.

15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on[d] the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The "Woman" or "Harlot" is Babylon the Great who rules the governments of the world via her control of banking and global finance, read Revelation 18 for confirmation, amongst this group you will find the likes of the Rothschilds.

There would appear to be a greater element of Goy involved in the New World Order however, hense their ability to overcome and destroy the controlling bankers.

Possibly a similar event to 1930s Germany where the bankers controlled the Government until Hitler appeared and destroyed that banking system and took control of the country and the issue of its money.

There was an actual organization of that name in late 18th Centurey Europe. Its purpose was to "bring the ideals of the Enlightenment to Bavaria". But it died out in Napoleonic times.

The Freemasons morphed from trade guild of actual stone cutters into a gentleman's club in the same Enlightenment age. And the Freemasons also promoted interest in such things as religous tolerence, and debate about radical stuff like representative government.

Both the Illumaniti and the Freemasons were not only real- but were rather positive forces back in the day. And many of the founding fathers really were freemasons. But then in the 19th centurey the freemasons fell into disrepute (there was even a "antimasonic" party that fielded presidential candidates). But then bounced back.

The Illumanati are no more (but live on as a bogeymen in the minds of occultists), and the Freemasons are still around but are more like "The Sons of the Desert"(as portrayed by Laurel and Hardy in the movie in that name) than they resemble the all-powerful fictional Freemasons of the DaVinci Code.

So... where does ruling the world come in...?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

The mummery of the Free Masons is down right ridiculous. Like college frat boys with secret handshakes.

^^^Yer just jealous Trouble for you at the DMV next time you go.

The Illuminati were a late 18th-century informal group of rational anti-monarchists. They only lasted for about 15 years.

However, the Illuminati conspiracy goes back to Abbé Augustin Barruel (1741-1820). He was a French Jesuit Roman Catholic Priest and, obviously, pro-monarchist:

All the Illuminati conspiracy stuff is just drivel - spread by dupes, especially over the Internet (these days), who cannot distinguish nonsense from history.

So... no world conquest?

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

lol. Hi, Bill.

Sounds confused.

Our country was founded by Freemasons. George Washington was the head of the US lodge. We got our replica of the Colossus of Rhodes (ie. sun god) in the 1880's from the French Grand Orient. We've had exactly one Catholic president as well largely thanks to that influence.

What people often claim - whether claiming to be former Illuminati programmers, witches, etc. is that they tend to farm from Freemasonry, OTO, perhaps A:.A:., as far as Rosicrucians or Priory I honestly don't know (and truthfully my knowledge on Priory of Sion is piecemeal to say the least).

Things are getting flipped end over end for me right now though. The Secret Teachings of All the Ages by Manly P Hall was a good read albeit it had more to do with philosophic/metaphysical orientations of different groups through history rather than offering playbook or agenda. Recently I decided to go back and reread as much Hermetic and Gnostic stuff as I could - read as far as the Pistis Sophia at which point I kind of got turned back by some Rosicrucian stuff I found and am currently reading 'The Burning Bush' by Edward Reaugh Smith (really half of it is Rudolph Steiner inserts) which seems to fill a lot of holes in the bible albeit filling them with a predictably awkward occult explanation.

I'm kinda hoping that enough research on Hermeticism, Gnosticism, Rosicrucianism, Qabbalah, etc. might help me get to the bottom of some of this - both what the heck secret societies are doing vs what people say they are as well as getting to the bottom of some of my own internal theological schisms.

Albeit yes... if in a year's time I end up starting a thread called 'Ask a Rosicrucian!' you'll know I went too far.