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14 Jul 2013, 9:03 pm

Questions to ask those who believe that the Illuminati still exists - Grouped according to topic.

1.0.0 HUMAN & MATERIAL RESOURCES

1.1.0 How large is the Illuminati conspiracy?

1.2.0 How many people are part of the Illuminati conspiracy?

1.3.0 Are there enough of the Illuminati to carry out the plan?

1.4.0 What infrastructure and resources does the Illuminati need?

1.5.0 How much time and money did it take and where did this money come from?

2.0.0 GAIN & PROFIT

2.1.0 Explicitly who gains what from the Illuminati conspiracy and for what price?

2.1.1 If the Illuminati is an old conspiracy - who gains what from maintaining it?

2.1.2 Is this the easiest method of gaining it?

2.1.3 If not, why was this method chosen over the easiest way?

3.0.0 SECRECY & SECURITY

3.1.0 How likely is the Illuminati conspiracy to be covered up if has gone on a long time?

3.2.0 If there are thousands of Illuminati conspirators, and the conspiracy has gone on for decades, why have none defected?

3.2.1 Why have none of them leaked the story?

3.2.2 If many Illuminati conspirators are dead, why have none of them told the truth on their deathbeds, or in their wills?

4.0.0 ORGANIZATION & PLANNING

4.1.0 If there are many thousands of Illuminati conspirators, how are they organized?

4.2.0 Where are the secret Illuminati conferences held?

4.3.0 How do the Illuminati keep track of membership?

4.4.0 If the Illuminati is organized through known channels or entities, how do they keep non-members who work there from uncovering the conspiracy?

5.0.0 INVOLVEMENT

5.1.0 If the US government is part of the Illuminati conspiracy, why have the French, Russian, or Chinese intelligence agencies never revealed it? (NOTE: If all intelligence agencies are involved, start over with section 2.0.0)

5.1.1 If they have, when and where did they do so?

6.0.0 CONTRADICTION & CONVOLUTION

6.1.0 Does belief in the Illuminati require accepting that the conspiring entities are (a) incredibly competent, bone stupid, organized and (b) clever, and hopelessly incompetent - all at the same time?

6.2.0 What (if any) implausible contradictions does the Illuminati theory depend upon?

6.2.1 ... A secret well and carefully kept by extremely powerful and aggressive entities, that one or (especially) more "bozos on the bus" happens to know all about, and talk about openly, including on the Web, without being disappeared?

6.2.2 ... A highly organized and thoroughly secret system of concentration camps operated by FEMA, which is famous for its amazingly chaotic, clumsy, and ineffective handling of rescue and recovery after Katrina?

6.2.3 ... An intensely secret program that could be easily discovered and verified by anyone with a common piece of scientific equipment?

Enquiring Minds want to Know!



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14 Jul 2013, 9:35 pm

Fnord wrote:
5.0.0 INVOLVEMENT

5.1.0 If the US government is part of the Illuminati conspiracy, why have the French, Russian, or Chinese intelligence agencies never revealed it? (NOTE: If all intelligence agencies are involved, start over with section 2.0.0)

5.1.1 If they have, when and where did they do so?


I couldn't follow the old thread, is MI6 in on it? I thought Bond was dealing with Quantum in the second to last movie..... :shrug:


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14 Jul 2013, 9:41 pm

AgentPalpatine wrote:
Fnord wrote:
5.0.0 INVOLVEMENT

5.1.0 If the US government is part of the Illuminati conspiracy, why have the French, Russian, or Chinese intelligence agencies never revealed it? (NOTE: If all intelligence agencies are involved, start over with section 2.0.0)

5.1.1 If they have, when and where did they do so?


I couldn't follow the old thread, is MI6 in on it? I thought Bond was dealing with Quantum in the second to last movie..... :shrug:

I'm still trying to determine how The Muppets / Sesame Street are suppose to be involved.



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14 Jul 2013, 9:53 pm

Sesame Street is responsible for millions of cases of OCD,"One of these things is not like the other..."


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14 Jul 2013, 10:21 pm

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Sesame Street is responsible for millions of cases of OCD,"One of these things is not like the other..."

That's one! ONE thing that is not like the others!

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AH-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Count von Count gets my vote for the most OC character on sesame Street.



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15 Jul 2013, 1:00 am

I can't go into detail about many of these subjects because to do so I would need to reveal info that I need people to be quiet about for a time until I can figure out the best way to proceed with my discoveries.

But I can answer many of your questions with simple examples...

Look to military organizations... from what I have seen the military is a watered down version of the illuminati. The military uses mental conditioning - mind control - to develop their recruits. All mind control is is a complex form of mental conditioning taken to the extreme and beginning from birth. Apparently the people in the illuminati are genetically predisposed to mind control susceptibility as well.

How does the military keep secrets? The illuminati uses the same methods to a greater extreme. Another aspect that allows this to be kept secret is that it is so hard to believe... if you control everything and few people are making the claims you are and they control all the people in power then how are you going to get the truth out?

Also, many elements of the truth are out already.. but they have created an environment where people have been convinced that the whole idea is ridiculous. They have intentionally discredited the truth they are hiding. You can discredit any ideas just like you can discredit people if you control all the sources of information. Add mind control into the mix and murder and blackmail... it becomes impossible to get the truth out.



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15 Jul 2013, 2:45 am

Another great example that I think is directly connected to the illuminati is the mafia and all organized crime and major gangs. How else do you think these organizations could exist? But remember.. everyone doesn't know the truth so many people are led to belive they are fighting the mafia and gangs.

One of the major things I think that shows this connection is the fact that the inner city gangs in LA wore the colors red and blue.

just like the political parties.

Divide and conquer.

How do you keep inner city people from rebelling against the society that keeps them down - divide and conquer. The same way the political system is made impotent.



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15 Jul 2013, 3:25 am

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15 Jul 2013, 3:49 am

Fnord wrote:
Questions to ask those who believe that the Illuminati still exists - Grouped according to topic.

Enquiring Minds want to Know!


Just look what you have gone and done.... 8O



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15 Jul 2013, 3:59 am

I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation? From what I heard about them they are winning, and it might be a good thing to be on the winning team. The Believers all seem to oppose them (without really doing anything beyond bitching about them on the interwebs and making youtube videos about it).



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15 Jul 2013, 4:03 am

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I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation?


You don't join, you are singled out and conscripted. Refusal to join is not an option. That's all I dare say here... or I'll be "disappeared". :wink:


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15 Jul 2013, 4:15 am

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trollcatman wrote:
I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation?


You don't join, you are singled out and conscripted. Refusal to join is not an option. That's all I dare say here... or I'll be "disappeared". :wink:


What happens in the Illuminati stays in the Illuminati :twisted:



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15 Jul 2013, 4:41 am

TallyMan wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation?


You don't join, you are singled out and conscripted. Refusal to join is not an option. That's all I dare say here... or I'll be "disappeared". :wink:


I turned down a special offer that came through the post last week, something about a very limited offer to light up my life, now I'm worried. :pale:



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15 Jul 2013, 4:52 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation?


You don't join, you are singled out and conscripted. Refusal to join is not an option. That's all I dare say here... or I'll be "disappeared". :wink:


I turned down a special offer that came through the post last week, something about a very limited offer to light up my life, now I'm worried. :pale:


Oops! It was me who suggested you as a member. I'll have a word with the master overlord and see if he'll give you another chance to join... before it is too late. Sorry about that.


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15 Jul 2013, 6:44 am

It's so ironic that people act as if the idea of the illuminati is a total joke and at the same time ignore that that is what the people in power have created - the environment where the whole thing is considered a joke.

Look back throughout history and you see where people in power have done things like this constantly... look what the Nazis did to the Jews.. look what the US government did to the Japanese during WWII.. they presented them as sub human to the general population

Look at 9-11.... all the questions about that event have been swept under the rug because people who question the official story have been portrayed as complete nut jobs and the whole thing has been completely politicized - divide and conquer.

All truth goes through 3 phases - first it's ridiculed.. second it's violently opposed.. third it's accepted as self evident..



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15 Jul 2013, 6:51 am

TallyMan wrote:
neilson_wheels wrote:
TallyMan wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
I think you forgot an important question: how does one join their organisation?


You don't join, you are singled out and conscripted. Refusal to join is not an option. That's all I dare say here... or I'll be "disappeared". :wink:


I turned down a special offer that came through the post last week, something about a very limited offer to light up my life, now I'm worried. :pale:


Oops! It was me who suggested you as a member. I'll have a word with the master overlord and see if he'll give you another chance to join... before it is too late. Sorry about that.


I think I saw a black helicopter last night. :(