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mr_bigmouth_502
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16 Apr 2014, 2:00 am

I've noticed a lot of people on here identify as having the "INTJ" personality type. The last two times I took the Myers-Briggs personality test, I got ISTP as my first result (this was many months back when I was in a more positive mindset), and ISTJ as my second result (which more accurately reflects my "normal" state of mind). As an aspie with an ISTJ personality type, is my personality type unusual at all, and if so, how am I different than a typical INTJ aspie?



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16 Apr 2014, 3:09 am

I'm a pretty classic INTJ. I think we are are independent thinkers and usually have a lot creative ideas and take on a more leadership role. Not like any E types, but we're not very good at listening to orders because chances are we won't agree with them. I like to create ideas out of a single argument or discussion rather than just agree with facts. Reading a lot of scientific literature makes me generate ideas, especially in the way how I arrive at a solution before the scientists have explained how they arrived at their own solutions.

I think it all explains us in the 'Thinking, Judgement' parts. We generate ideas from within and judge based on our own beliefs rather than what the group does.

Then again, it could just be easier looking up what being an INTJ really means and I'm sure other people here could describe it in a more accurate and objective way.


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16 Apr 2014, 3:33 am

I just did some research, it appears one of the main differences between INTJs and ISTJs is that INTJs tend to work better with abstract ideas, and are more creative as a result, whereas ISTJs think more in terms of what they can see and feel, and work better with "concrete" ideas. I can definitely relate to this.

The other main difference appears to be that ISTJs are more likely to follow rules and deadlines than INTJs. I can sort of relate to this, but at the same time I don't actually like following rules, and I do it more because I either feel I'm obligated to, or because they provide a concrete structure for me to work with which otherwise wouldn't be there.

But here's what i don't get, aren't aspies technically supposed to think more in rigid, concrete terms? Going by what I've read, you'd think that ISTJ personalities would be more prevalent among aspies than INTJ personalities. Maybe online communities like WP are just more apt to attracting the more-creative, INTJ variety of aspies. :P



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16 Apr 2014, 5:31 am

I am an INTJ personality type.

While the INTJ personality type is rather unusual amongst the general population (reported to be about 2%), it occurs far more commonly with AS individuals. INJT's have been succinctly described as "the scientist." If it is helpful, you could google known individuals who are strongly INTJ to mentalize a profile.


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16 Apr 2014, 5:40 am

Something to consider ...

1. INTJ: "They focus their attention on the big picture rather than the details and on future possibilities rather than immediate realities".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ

2. However ...

"One study found personality disorders as described by the DSM overall to correlate modestly with I, N, T, and P, though the associations varied significantly by disorder. The only two disorders with significant correlations of all four MBTI dimensions were schizotypal (INTP) and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (ISTJ)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Brig ... _Indicator



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16 Apr 2014, 5:57 am

Most times I took that test in a serious way (with psychologists or people who had some training) I got INTP. I have always been a bit perplexed about the purpose of that kind of tests, since they can only really teach you something if the methodological framework they are based on is really serious and you master that framework. Otherwise it is mostly putting labels on people using an arbitrary method. However I never thought again about it since my AS diagnosis, maybe there are some interesting correlations to be made.


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16 Apr 2014, 6:30 am

I'm ISTJ


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16 Apr 2014, 7:13 am

I'm ISTJ.



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16 Apr 2014, 8:00 am

I've a tendency to think rather concretely. I'm a lover of history. I enjoy speaking about philosophy within the context of history--but not philosophy by itself. I don't like philosophical dogmatism--it irritates the heck out of me. I'm ISFJ--though what was described within the results of the test did not jibe with my own impression of myself.

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16 Apr 2014, 10:10 am

I'm ISTJ. And I agree with your thoughts, I thought more aspies would be this personality type.



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16 Apr 2014, 10:22 am

I have found some Aspies to be obsessed with the Abstract, to the exclusion of the Concrete (some of which might be staring them in the face).

It's a bit of a failing of mine that I'm not a lover of the Abstract--as this, perhaps, limits my intellectual growth.

However, if something's staring you in the face, you must address it.



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16 Apr 2014, 5:10 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
Something to consider ...

1. INTJ: "They focus their attention on the big picture rather than the details and on future possibilities rather than immediate realities".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INTJ

2. However ...

"One study found personality disorders as described by the DSM overall to correlate modestly with I, N, T, and P, though the associations varied significantly by disorder. The only two disorders with significant correlations of all four MBTI dimensions were schizotypal (INTP) and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (ISTJ)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Brig ... _Indicator


I've always been detail oriented, and I actually have quite a hard time thinking of things in terms of the "big picture", oftentimes. As well, as much as I often think about the future, I'm actually quite terrible at predicting future events.

Also, the correlation between ISTJ personalities and obsessive-compulsive personality disorder probably explains a lot about me.



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17 Apr 2014, 12:26 am

To be honest INTJ now sounds like a prevalent personality type to people with ADHD. I kind of alternate between INTJ and ISTJ.

I do follow rules. I often question the relevance of them, but I always make sure I follow them. I get anxiety if I don't meet people's demands.


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17 Apr 2014, 1:29 am

I dont like associating myself with too many people or work on groups on projects because they get in my way of progress on getting things done correctly, I dont like dealing with too many people I dont know or like. I get in modes where i don't think about the feelings of others too much and just go with logical solutions to things I come off as cold and calculating and for the most part prefer to be alone at times to think, constantly thinking and costantly curious I keep my circles small.


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17 Apr 2014, 5:46 am

This page has extensive explanations for each of the types.
http://www.personalitypage.com/html/portraits.html

I'm INTJ. (I feel like I'm at an AAA meeting).
Rules are something someone else made up for some reason. I have no requirement to follow rules, unless I've agreed to for work for society generaly. Otherwise, I'll take responsibility for myself and do whatever I want whenever I want. I don't care what others think, or do. That's their problem, not mine.

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17 Apr 2014, 9:05 pm

LOL.....I'm KraftieKortie, I'm a person on the Spectrum!