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Kurgan
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31 May 2014, 7:33 am

The BMI scale is for statistical purposes only, not for individuals. Having said that, there's not a whole lot of difference in lean mass between two men who've never taken exercise seriously, or two women who've never taken exercise seriously. Hugh Jackman has a BMI of 25 at 8% bodyfat in the X-Men/Wolverine movies, and Gerard Butler in 300, had a BMI of 25.1. You need to be quite built to have a high BMI and at the same time be lean.


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31 May 2014, 7:51 am

Kurgan wrote:
The BMI scale is for statistical purposes only, not for individuals. Having said that, there's not a whole lot of difference in lean mass between two men who've never taken exercise seriously, or two women who've never taken exercise seriously. Hugh Jackman has a BMI of 25 at 8% bodyfat in the X-Men/Wolverine movies, and Gerard Butler in 300, had a BMI of 25.1. You need to be quite built to have a high BMI and at the same time be lean.

Anyone who is athletic will usually have a higher BMI scale. I saw a few people in this forum mention BMI, so I decided to post some links on the topic, rather than highjacking threads.



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31 May 2014, 8:01 am

CommanderKeen wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
The BMI scale is for statistical purposes only, not for individuals. Having said that, there's not a whole lot of difference in lean mass between two men who've never taken exercise seriously, or two women who've never taken exercise seriously. Hugh Jackman has a BMI of 25 at 8% bodyfat in the X-Men/Wolverine movies, and Gerard Butler in 300, had a BMI of 25.1. You need to be quite built to have a high BMI and at the same time be lean.

Anyone who is athletic will usually have a higher BMI scale. I saw a few people in this forum mention BMI, so I decided to post some links on the topic, rather than highjacking threads.


This is true. A lot of people who've never exercised before typically shrug of their high BMI with "muscles weight more than fat!", though. This is how a BMI of 25 looks at 12% bodyfat:

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This is how 10% bodyfat looks at a BMI of 22.1:

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This is how 8% bodyfat looks at a BMI of 24:

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31 May 2014, 9:56 am

Kurgan wrote:
The BMI scale is for statistical purposes only, not for individuals. Having said that, there's not a whole lot of difference in lean mass between two men who've never taken exercise seriously, or two women who've never taken exercise seriously. Hugh Jackman has a BMI of 25 at 8% bodyfat in the X-Men/Wolverine movies, and Gerard Butler in 300, had a BMI of 25.1. You need to be quite built to have a high BMI and at the same time be lean.
You mean were never fitness freaks who exercised hard. ;) Whether or not you take something seriously is irrelevant in this matter. I assume there must be an index for fitness freaks out there. Problem solved. :lol: if the sample can be limited to normal persons, so can the index. :P



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31 May 2014, 4:44 pm

The BMI is just a guideline of health. A high BMI doesn't always mean that you sit around at eat junk food and never exercise. That's why I don't pay attention to it because the BMI doesn't have the exact history of why you have a certain BMI. I don't weigh myself every day, but I weigh somewhere about or around 220. Last time I weighed myself I had eaten and had some female things that were about to happen.

I exercise a lot. I fell on a wet floor and hurt my hip and arm, but I plan on exercising later today or tomorrow. I don't eat a lot of junk food either. I find fast food disgusting. This summer I'm doing a minimal eating diet to help maintain my clothing size.

It also depends on how your weight is distrubutied. I'm not too big in the top, not too big in the middle and not to big in the bottom. I'm kinda glad that I don't have a smaller hip area or else my pants would fall down :lol:

I have a size 18 ass, but not a huge one.


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31 May 2014, 4:54 pm

BMI is a mild obsession of mine, but it's pretty obvious that if a person is muscular yet has a high BMI they aren't "fat." I'm not muscular and always try to stay at BMI 19 or below. The highest I've ever been is BMI 21.

There also seem to be people who aren't necessarily built but who are perfectly healthy at higher BMIs.



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04 Jul 2014, 6:59 am

I saw a program about women with unpleasantly large breasts.
This one woman was really quite petite, but had giant breasts... like... KK sized or something, I think they were.. massive natural breasts which were all out of proportion with the rest of her.

So, she ended up having surgery.
At the start of the show she was allegedly verging on morbidly obese according to her BMI.... but really she was very much in shape.
Then she had as much breast reduction and lift surgery as was physically possible, bringing them down to I think DD.... and then her BMI was in the "perfectly normal" range.

I thought this was wildly unfair.... because assumedly the BMI assumes that women with a healthy body fat percentage have no breasts since any fat contained in their breasts is comparable to cellulite elsewhere.

I'd have thought a *sensible* *unbiased* BMI ought to compensate for the simple fact that women do have breasts.



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04 Jul 2014, 11:54 am

That last link gets flagged by my virus scanner as infected. FYI.



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04 Jul 2014, 3:29 pm

I think BMI is highly flawed. I'm a man with a 29 inch waist, but according to it I am borderline obese lol. It doesnt take into consideration how much of your weight is muscle mass, and that varies wildly between different people. If you feel healthy and are capable of doing everything you want to do then I wouldn't worry about it.



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04 Jul 2014, 4:43 pm

Mine's 29 I think since I lost a little weight. But meh. :lol:


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06 Jul 2014, 11:36 pm

Mine is 27.3 and I am actually quite proud of it.
Am I going to make an attempt to loose weight? No way :cheers:
I'm feeling better than ever and I am happily heading towards obesity. That's right!



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11 Jul 2014, 4:28 am

BMI is nonsense... according to it every bodybuilder would be morbidly obese. But I have 28 or something without being so fat.


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11 Jul 2014, 12:38 pm

I think I've posted this before in other threads, but in my view, the BMI scale is a joke, and is made up of false parameters and it ignores too many variables. Case in point: I am "obese" at 5' 11" and 195 lbs. But my actual body fat percentage is 5.7, which is "better than ideal" for a 19-year-old athlete, and I'm 47. And if I'm "obese", how do they explain this photo of me, which was taken last year (same time I was given the letter from my insurance company telling me I'm "obese", based on my numbers?
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11 Jul 2014, 3:10 pm

kx250rider wrote:
I think I've posted this before in other threads, but in my view, the BMI scale is a joke, and is made up of false parameters and it ignores too many variables. Case in point: I am "obese" at 5' 11" and 195 lbs. But my actual body fat percentage is 5.7, which is "better than ideal" for a 19-year-old athlete, and I'm 47. And if I'm "obese", how do they explain this photo of me, which was taken last year (same time I was given the letter from my insurance company telling me I'm "obese", based on my numbers?
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You are a monster and I mean that in the most polite way.



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12 Jul 2014, 3:12 am

Charles is a badass and nothing can convince me otherwise. :P


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