What is your purpose for this life?

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I hope you have realised how my question is wrong in every way imagined. I'll tell you that everyone will have a answer to this backwards questions but the reality is that question is wrong in every way possible.

The real question is what is your purpos for the hereafter?

There exists a big difference between the two questions and unfortunalty most of mankind are following the promise of satan to misguide most of mankind and make them forget about God and the hereafter. What have you prepared for the hereafter?

The Quran, the last revelation sent to all of mankind, is narrated by Allah (God) "Himself" and Allah speaks of the day of recompense in nearly every page. Here are a few random verses that man should ponder over.

(And they swear by Allah their strongest oaths that Allah will not resurrect one who dies. But yes (He will resurrect them) ? (it is) a promise (binding) upon Him in truth, but most of mankind know not. In order that He may make manifest to them the truth of that wherein they differ, and that those who disbelieved (in Resurrection, and in the Oneness of Allah) may know that they were liars.) Quran

(Does not man see that We have created him from Nutfah (mixed drops of male and female sexual discharge). Yet behold! He stands forth as an open opponent. And he puts forth for Us an example, and forgets his own creation. He says, ?Who will give life to these bones when they have rotted away and became dust??)Quran

And you see the earth barren, but when We send down water (rain) on it, it is stirred (to life). It swells and puts forth every lovely kind (of growth). That is because Allah is the Truth, and it is He Who gives life to the dead, and it is He Who is Able to do all things. And surely, the Hour is coming, there is no doubt about it. And surely, Allah will resurrect those in the graves.)Quran


The reality is that most of mankind will only wake up after death. And the punishment of Allah is very severe for the wrongdoers and the Mercy of Allah is near for the believers who don't deny the day of judgement. Who will take heed?

Fortunately for you the likely hood that you are wrong will not become apparent as will you no longer exist and therefore will not be able to deduce anything and therefore you will not be disappointed.

The overwhelming probability is that there is no purpose to life other than life itself.

That is a belief as much as a belief that there IS a purpose in life.

You have no reason to believe otherwise, and, granted, the belief in a purpose in life have no reason to believe there is such a thing.

But they are both beliefs, because we can prove neither of them.

It's like sitting inside a box, and you can get a grasp of its overall size from within. But you will never know if there is a sign on the outside of the box, and what that sign says.
Let alone, you will never know if there is a world outside the box, and what that world looks like.

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Biological:
-"to reproduce"

Virtue:
-"a path for self-improvement, and to help others"

Selfish:
-"to serve our individual needs and desires"
-"to be happy"
-"the one who dies with the most toys wins"

Idealistically Speaking: Ecclesiastes 12:13 (Old Testament) - Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind.

Realistically Speaking: Get rich or die trying.

I disagree, we have zero evidence for an afterlife of any sort, we only have evidence of this life. So the probability based upon the evidence is NOT 50/50.

As I already said once, your evidence for this life is like sitting inside a box knowing about its inner diameter and dimensions, but you know NOTHING about what's beyond the box.

As I also already told you, I agree we have no evidence there there should be any such thing beyond "the box we are in". But since we know from our current life and current world, there is always something beyond something else. Again I would like to use the box as an example: Every box has not only an inside of it, but an outside as well. Why should it be any different with the entire universe?

Damn it , I cannot count how many times I have used the box-example. For some reason, people deliberately fail to understand it. How hard is it?

A box has an inside.
But the box is placed on something. A ground. That's the outside. And the ground is reflecting light, from a source, the sun, that is even further away, even further beyond the beyond of the box.

I'd be pretty surprised if people still fail to understand my metaphor now.

Since religion is a human invention from our ignorant past there is nothing of value in it.
You may as well also accept the flat earth mythology, as described in Genesis.

If religion is a human invention, and since we are humans, and since it is an ancient invention, that has survived till this day, religion does serve a purpose.
Otherwise, it would have ceased to exist.

Also, just because something is from the past, doesn't neccessarily mean it is ignorant. The future could be as ignorant as the past, or worse or better.
Judging from my history books, I'd say that the early 20th century was way better than the 1910's and 30's and 40's, even though it was in our past.

The Ancient Antiquity was also better than the Middle Ages. That's the whole idea behind the Renaissance.

The purpose of religion is disputed, but I think that the main purpose of religion, is philosophy. To me, religion and philosophy is intertwined. Its synonymous.

Indeed it does serve a purpose. It perpetuates and agrees with the survival of the fittest element of evolution. Our ancestors learned that by gathering in exclusive groups, our tribe/species had more chance of survival. Gathering in exclusive groups has evolved into more sophisticated exclusive groups. And the need for survival has been pushed on into the afterlife. Thus satisfying that principle of evolution.

Here is the problem with the box metaphor:
We used to only know what we could see and hear, but we have moved so far beyond that that your box metaphor could easily be used against your arguments. We used to only know the inside of the box. But now we have opened the box and begun looking around outside to discover things we cannot directly see or feel (i.e. the Earth is round and rotates around the sun, the subatomic world, astrophysics, etc.). Just because we started in the box doesn't mean we aren't going to get out and travel miles and miles away from it.

Enrol in a course on creation theology and then get back to me.

I think at this point, religion's main purpose has become nothing more than an extremely self centered comfort. The idea that you are not some all important special and wonderful being with a massive significance in this world with less than a speck of existence in the whole of time before your absolute end can be absolutely terrifying.

When one questions the purpose of life, they must also question on what basis do they answer such a question. If the answer comes from the Quran, what basis does one have for turning to the Quran? Why is it true? If you were born Christian, or Jew, you would turn to a different text, so is the only basis for turning to your particular text because of your upbringing? Why does your background count as evidence for truth? Humanity once believed the world was flat and at the center of the universe (and some people still believe this!). If we allowed our background to always dictate what is truth, what is credible, we would never get anywhere as no one would ever change what they believe, so change is inevitable. A Christian today has very little in common with a Christian 2000 years ago, in fact, their beliefs would be very incompatible, so in what way are they similar? What brings them together? What about before Abrahamic religions, before the division between Jew, Christian, Muslim? Don't we all come from the same background, with everyone claiming to come from the one "true" way, so what basis do any of these groups really have for believing what they believe? Once you demolish said worldview, you get to develop the pleasure, agony, and humor to build a new one.

To eat cheese.

This goes nicely on top of the flying spaghetti monster.