That thieving motherf***er!

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My oldest son (25) left his xbox at my MIL's house at the lake and my BIL informed him today that it "got stolen". Well, nobody broke in and got it, it's just gone. That sorry sack of s**t BIL pawned it is what happened. I'm calling the pawn shops tomorrow and giving them a spiel where they will tell me, like it's something ok, and find out. Then I'm gonna call my SIL about this and she will chew him a new as*hole and cut his money. He already tried to screw us out of $200 the other day and I called her. He's gonna stop playing this s**t with me and mine, and I mean it.

Simmer down, it's just a cheap rebranded PC. Also, people are 120% batshit barking mad about xBoxes, a really interesting dude I knew was fracking MURDERED over one of the new ones. Those machines are not conducive to en masse sanity.

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it maybe be "a rebranded PC" but that doesn't negate the fact that it BELONGED TO HER SON.

I fully understand OOM's indignation, but I still say avoiding direct confrontation is the thing to do. The link I posted wasn't even an isolated incedent! I don't want to be any more crass (than usual) but real life conflict over videogame consoles absolutely is not worthwhile.

I say let the police handle the people involved. They aren't worth the trouble.

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Its a crappy situation and the police are best placed to deal with the issue. Can you prove it was yours however? I mean without proof of purchase im not sure that the police can do anything

I'm not 100% positive, having never owned an XBOX personally, but if you registered for the warrantee or anything [like anything for game credits or any kind of crap with the company, or even some services sometimes], you will have the serial number. Then you can all all the pawn shops in the area and with the police's backing, tell them to either hold the XBOX from sale/get the name/contact police.

SOURCE:A lot of gamer friends with said console.

1. It doesn't matter so much about the actual xbox, it's that my BIL went in there and got it out of my son's stuff that he left from when he was staying there (he stays there off and on and helps take care of my MIL) and sold it so he could buy weed, and yes I'm sure thats what he used the money for because he's always short of money cause he buys a lot of weed.

2. Nobody's getting freakin' MURDERED. There is no need to avoid direct confrontation, my BIL is safe, I'm not gonna physically hurt him, that would be stupid. I am gonna f**k him up in other ways though. I'm going to tell my SIL and she will get even stricter with the money she's giving him to take care of their mother, and I'll have the option of calling the cops to hold over his head from now on anyway, and that will work cause he's a p**** and scared of everything.

3. Why would I want the cops involved? I don't want to put him in jail. If he went to jail, one of us would have to go take care of my MIL and his lazy ass pothead 22 year old son ho doesn't leave his room or video games. I don't need the cops. Also, if the cops went there, my BIL and his loser son would go to jail and then my SIL would probably spend a lot of money to get them out because there would be weed charges and my nephew would have to go to jail for that statuatory rape thing that he's on probation for from Florida. So it would be a huge deal, much bigger than the xbox. (As much as I hate my nephew, I have to point out that the statuatory rape thing is BS. He broke up with his gf who was a year younger than him about four years ago and she got furious and told her dad they had been having sex, and even though it was consensual he went to the cops and my nephew is a sex criminal now. She did that to get back at him, she even said it was consensual)

This isn't life or death or a huge thing, it's just the principle of the thing. My son even asked him if it's in the pawn shop and he said "If you did pawn it, thats cool I just want to know. I know you need extra cash sometimes". He still said no he didn't pawn it, but that's my BIL. He will lie when the truth is a better answer.

Here's the reason why we are mad over this. Imagine if you went to your grandmothers house, your sick and bedridden grandmother who you stayed with to take care of and to help your loser no good unemployed alcoholic uncle and his loser no good video game addicted lazy 22 year old son who can't even make himself a frozen pizza or get a glass of coke for himself out of the fridge cause he's so spoiled, to take care of your grandmother. Say you brought all your s**t with you and put it in that big back bedroom. One thing you had in there is an xbox which you sometimes get out and hook up when your brother comes over and you play the games with him, but because you don't have xbox live you don't mess with it that much cause you wanted to use it to watch Netflix but without live, you can't. You don't care that much about the xbox but it's in your bag, in your room, at your grandmother's house. Your drunkle uncle who you have been helping out but doing things and letting him take the credit for, goes in there, gets it, takes it to the pawn shop and sells it to either buy weed for himself and his loser son, or buy food for everybody because he spent the food money on weed for himself and his loser son. He does this without even calling you to ask, because you would have told him he could pawn it if need be. THAT is what my son and I are pissed about.

I'd like to ask the person who told me to avoid direct contact, why? Are you worried for me? My BIL is a p****. He's a scared little bunny rabbit that will run from anything. You think he's gonna hurt me? I'm certainly not stupid enough to hurt him and go to jail over a damn xbox.

I don't think he would get jail time for pawning an xbox of a family member, particularly if the family member doesn't want to see him in jail. He would possibly get probation- which would probably be good in his situation. Though if he f****d that up, he might get jail time. And I understand that given your situation you don't want to see him in jail. And though the concern about nephew being on probation from florida is valid, I'm not sure how that would work if the probation officer is in Florida, and it sounds like you arent at all and they've given him free reign to go wherever, which is really unusual. Since it's not a federal crime, the jurisdictions wouldn't share info. If the nephew is smoking weed anyway he's not checking in with his PO so it's like he's not on probation at all, so he might already be in trouble and not even know it. Anyway, that's a side note, and like, not something you would risk.

Though it sounds like he's [BIL] not doing much to take care of your mother in law, just more being a warm body in the house... though even that can be helpful in a lot of circumstances. I know when my grandmother was older it helped a lot just to have someone there.

You could still try to get the xbox back by physically going to all the area pawn shops NOW and checking the serial numbers yourself.

My parents' house was broken into and they ended up doing that and checking pawn shops for some of their stuff- the police were involved, but they also started looking around themselves.

ANYWAY- It sounds like a frustrating and complex situation. I hope you can sort it out without having to actually resort to any complex legal actions, because it already sounds a bit of a mess and involving legal authorities would likely just make it a clusterf**k.

Good luck. I hope things get straightened out.

No, you don't get jail time for pawning somebody else's xbox, but you do get jail time for the amount of weed he's got in that house. BIL smokes weed too. If the cops came to the house to talk to him they would smell it, giving probable cause for searching and then bammo, off to jail.

Fla agreed to let my nephew do his probation in Alabama because he had to move here with his dad when my BIL lost his job and it as decided by everyone that he should move in and take care of his mother. Nephew was 18 at the time and had no skills or way to live alone and his only parent was moving out of the state, so they let him go with him. He sees the PO once a month or so, and yes he still smokes weed. They don't always drug test him but sometimes they do and it's pretty easy to get around that if you know what you are doing, and he does. No, those "clean out" things don't work but other ways do give you clean pee.

He probably pawned it to get it back rather than selling it, thinking that he would get it back before it was missed. This means that it won't be out there on display with the things for sale, it will be in the back where we can't see it. I called the pawn shops and they won't give out the info, so I'm going to just call my BIL and pretend like they did and threaten him with the cops and with telling my SIL and hold it over his head.

This isn't about wanting the xbox back, this is about him pawning it without permission cause he spends all the money my SIL sends him to live on and take care of my MIL on booze and weed and his loser son who refuses to do anything at all. My MIL can't walk so he gets her up and puts her in the chair in the livingroom, brings her food, gives her her meds, puts her on the toilet, gives her baths, keeps the house cleaned up, changes her bed, etc. However, when my son lived there he did all that rather than my BIL. My nephew refuses to do anything for her. She can be screaming for him and he just shuts the door and turns up his tv. He's basically a spoiled little piece of scum. My BIL waits on him hand and foot and treats him like he's made out of glass and so very fragile. The kid is 22 and can't drive, can't make a frozen pizza, can't wash a load of clothes, can't do anything at all for himself and my BIL gives him every single thing he wants. His reasoning is that the kids mother died on Christmas day back hen he as about 14 or 15 so he has to do everything to "make up for that". However, his mother never lifted a finger to take care of him and just laid on the couch and literally ate herself to death. She was like 400 lbs when she died of the heart attack. She couldn't even walk. All she cared about was food and her pet rabbits and squirrels.

BIL is extremely selfish and won't do anything for anybody else other than his son, unless it somehow benefits him. He will lie, cheat, steal, whatever it takes to get whatever little thing he wants. I understand being like that if it's something major like a roof over your head or food, but he's like that just to get a twelve pack or a bottle of whiskey. On top of that, he's not only stealing to support his and his sons habits but he's a snob about it too. He won't buy regular weed, he will only buy fire weed. He won't get cheap beer in a can he has to get expensive imported beer, he won't buy cheap whiskey he only buys the good name brand s**t that we only buy on holidays.