Miami wants South Florida to seperate from Florida

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http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local ... 51st-state
The discussion in the border counties could get interesting.
I think they should only take the heavily democratic areas of Miami Metro area, Orange, Osceola counties and the Conch Republic. Then name the state New Cuba. Florida itself would be left as a red state like a bigger version of Georgia and New Cuba would be as blue as a New England state.

I wonder if states fragmenting could be the beginning of the end of America as a united nation?

Literally 0 chance of happening, states can't be created from other states. The Florida legislature and the US congress would have to vote on it.

Not at all true. The US Congress has no legal standing in the matter. Many states already have law codes concerning segregation and separation of their states into pieces. Secondly, it is possible for such a decision to be placed in a popular vote.

Article four, section 3, clause 1 of the US Constitution

It aint gonna happen. I dont know why people have their tails in knots over secession lately,

The Tea Party was the beginning of the end of America as a united nation because the Tea Party is incapable of tolerating and accepting anyone who does not act and "think" exactly as they do.

I know edgar Cayce predicted a fragmented America in the 21st century.

Which is different than every other political group ever how?

There is other legal documentation already ratified by the U.S. congress hundreds of years ago that allow for exceptions. Texas had an additional contract with the federal government for special privileges concerning this matter. So does Virginia, Kentucky, and New York and probably others.
Nevertheless, if the state gives up jurisdiction, the law need not apply.

Your one of those people who believe that the constitution still means how it was written and that it can be freely interpreted without that hundreds of years of legal precedent. The Law isn't written in vernacular.

Its pretty cut and dry about what it needs, what else do you think it means? The legislature of Florida and the US Congress would have to approve any split.

I don't have any problem living side by side with anyone, but the Tea Party would scorch this country and everyone in it to get what they want. The Tea Party is uncompromising and will use any means necessary to achieve their goals, because their goals are not about a United States of America. The Tea Party is the ME State of America or nothing. They care about two things and two things only. Themselves, and MONEY. They do not CARE about religion. Religion is just a tool to use for manipulation of clueless voters.


<waiting for topic to be moved to PPR and waiting for my private message warning me that some right wing extremist views my words as a "personal attack" because that is how Conservatives here shut people up and silence discourse>

some cold comfort, you are not the only one who gets such from such.

Evidence?



So, you view political topics that veer into argument being moved to the forum designed for that specific purpose as having some sinister purpose behind it? And that being warned for personal attacks when you make them, and having your pointless bomb throwing threads that you won't even deign to participate in locked as flaming/spam because they are is some sort of plot to silence you? Wouldn't just banning you be far more efficient?

No, I think a lot of posts in this forum should be placed in PPR to begin with.

Ban me for expressing an opinion and not engaging in follow-up discourse? Why am I not permitted to just post an opinion? Why is it mandated that I engage further? Other people were engaging between themselves, and no doubt it would have continued had it not be locked. It is not fair to lock a topic just because the OP has had their say and has no need to elaborate. Just because I say something you don't like and then move on to other things does not mean I am "flame baiting." I had never even heard that term before I was accused of it on WP. I see a lot of things on here from other people that could fall into the "flame baiting" category as I understand the interpretation of the term from what I have seen here but I don't wish anyone banned because they say something in a way I don't like.

I am not trying to "bait" anyone with anything I say here. Some things I just want to express an opinion on. I am not looking for responses or dialogue on everything I post.. When I feel the need to engage further, I do, if not, I don't. That does not mean I am baiting people. Do you think I never feel like I am being "baited" here? I have been warned for even mentioning that possibility, yet here people accuse me of doing it without any consequence at all. Sometimes I just want to get something off my chest. I thought that is what this site
is all about. This constant arguing, debating, discussing, whatever term you want to use, that some members seem to feel addicted to, and would wish to make mandatory, I derive no pleasure from. Many times I post things here and never look at them again. Why do I have to engage just because some people find this stuff "sporting" and exhilarating? I don't get anything from all of this back and forth. I do not feel the need to elaborate on every syllable I see and compose, like some members seem to do. Many times I feel pressured to engage further because some other members are incapable of just responding and letting it go at that. I don't have to constantly have the "last say," like some folks do.

This place, of all places, should recognize that people have triggers, emotional issues and everything in between. An emotional or passionate post by someone should not be punished by all of these ridiculous mandates. I am not the only person on this site who has ever posted something just to get it out of their head. I have learned to recognize on this site the personalities which sometimes just need to vent and I have learned that to engage could possibly just exacerbate the situation. Why am I not afforded the same courtesy? Why is it if I vent sometimes I am accused of "baiting?"

Why does this site not accommodate the manifestations of mental disorders when the whole concept of this site is to be an outlet for people who are wired differently.

I would never call for you, or anyone else on this site to be banished simply because I do not like what they say, no matter how much we disagree