why can't i just end.

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I don't want to die, i fear it but it seems like the only way the shittyness and suffering will stop.

all I ever hear and see is how worthless and shity I am. How i'll never be good enough so whats the point of surviving just to live worthless and crap every day after day with no hope.

Maybe you should not seek the value of your life in the approval of others? I think a lot of value of life comes from what you make of it. You cannot sit there and wait for it to get better, wait for life to "give" you nice things. I have often done that and it did not help.

I know this maybe sounds a bit harsh, but for me (when I feel like you) it is the only way to proceed. You are 26 years old, you can do almost anything you want. Not from today to tomorrow, but if you sit down and make a plan, it can work out.

Who tells you you're worthless and sh***y? Certainly not anybody here on WrongPlanet.

What kraftiekortie said. I know the feeling very well though.

Basically, the way I view it is:

It may not be wonderful right now, but at least I'm not dead.

That's just my opinion. You definitely have us WP people to talk to. Also, perhaps find something to do for yourself. For me, art (painting, music, writing) is important. You don't even have to be good at it, whatever it is, just find something that gives you purpose and makes you feel a bit less sh*tty.

most people don't directly , but they talk about types of people and how they suck or aren't worth dating etc.

its like if i said blacks are terrible people, any black person would then know i think hes terrible even though i didn't directly say he is terrible.

so when people talk about how uneducated people are aweful, well i'm an uneducated person so i'm awful.

women have no problem going on and on about what makes guys aweful, worthless, trash that shouldn't be bothered with. us guys are people too not just stats on form :'(

idk sleep is only time i seem to be free and sleeping is like being dead 8 hours a day. theres no way for life to get better. i can't be a guy who is worth dating. i won't ever have a phd or graduate. or a high paying job etc. with most women going to college and getting degrees its hopeless for us guys who don't. more of the jobs women get use degrees where as a lot of guys still do labor jobs or vocational jobs that don't require college degrees.

but they figure since they have a degree they should only date guys with degrees. but atleast here it seems to be 4/5 women go to college while 2/5 guys do.

as long as my main want in life is a relationship and family, which in order to do some woman must find you worthy i won't ever be able to not base my self worth by what others think.

You can be uneducated and still be intelligent. Either way, intelligence is not the whole of a person. Personally, I have a 9th grade education. I'm getting my GED right now. I have to take a remedial math class because the public school teachers taught it in a way that I did not understand, but I know I can do it.

Sounds like the women you know of are stuck up as*holes. I mean, obviously you may not wish to date someone if their interests and goals are entirely different than yours, but that has to do more with incompatibility than if you are "worthy" of a good relationship.

There are around 7,269,651,927 people in the world right now. I won't be surprised if you do find somebody, you just have to keep trying, as tedious as that sounds.

I also know what you mean about sleep. I actually have a sleep disorder called sleep paralysis, so that's the only downside to sleeping for me.

I'm not a particularly educated person. I do have a bachelor's--but I got it at age 45.

I ain't terrible by any means!

I've known people who are fully illiterate, yet are smarter than people with PhD's.

yep she probably lives in china in a small town. and we'll never meet both dying alone like in the simpsons with moes soulmate.

you live in nyc though kraftiekortie. population is like what 10million people from all kinds of lives.
I live in a city with a low population that consists of mostly people going to the university/colleges or who graduated.

sly, stop thinking about what you don't have - you're stuck in a negative reinforcing spiral. Don't feed it. Force yourself to replace thoughts of unfulfilled wants with small positives. Try to stay in the moment and don't set your value against a fantasy.

Jesus I get sick of people telling each other how they're "supposed" to feel and think. I thought this was a primarily NT trait, but I guess I should just give up on the species entirely.

As it is, Sly, I completely understand where you're coming from. Not going to try and feed you any cliché advice that I don't believe in. For whatever it might be worth, just know you're not the only person out there who's going through this stuff. As a wise man once said, it's just a ride. All you can do is hope this lull ends up leading to something better. Way easier said than done, I know. That's all I got for ya.

You have good qualities,don't let people tell you different.You have a kind heart,morals and intelligence.Whoever puts you down is just trying to boost their own fragile ego.You have more going for you than some hateful judgemental jerk.

Hmmm, I'd better sign up for a course.

That's why girls don't like me?

That's considered to be not particularly educated? Yet most of my plans in life hinged around getting a bachelor's degree.

(or at least the plans that didn't involve retail therapy).

Hey wait a minute, I know some people who got quite wealthy with just a bachelor's degree (and some who didn't).

That was me a few months ago. And yet I had insomnia at the same time The same worries that made me just want to sleep made me unable to sleep. I started to feel a bit better. Maybe you will too, idk.

Anyway suicide is counter-productive. If you go on living you could have a 1% chance of either finding what you seek or finding happiness in something else. It could be a 1% percent chance. If you're dead it's a 0% chance. Which has better odds? If you don't value your life that means you having nothing to lose, therefor you have nothing to lose by living.

I know you're depressed about the things you lack your life but you still won't have any of those things if you're dead.

Anyway if you want to feel better you should set some goals and work towards them. I mean, in my case I felt like a lacked three things in life (a girl, a job and a house) and I felt a lot better after I gained just one of them because even though I didn't have everything I wanted I at least had one of the things I wanted. That alone was enough to make a huge difference so if you could just improve your life in even a small way, or be working towards some long term plan for improvement.

And if people tell you you're worthless, they're wrong. Just remember this quote ?Those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind?. Anyone who goes 'round calling other people worthless must be so stupid they couldn't possibly be right.

Yeah, I've noticed that too... Hey wait a minute, correct me if I'm wrong but didn't you say you had a mechanic's degree or something?

That's a very interesting phenomenon, what do you think caused that?

OK, it might seem like it's harder for a guy to find a partner than a girl but logically, they must both have the same odds because there's the same amount of both. I mean, if in your town most women have degrees and said women only pair up guys with degrees, while fewer guys that must mean that 40% of the women in your town are single (and presumably looking to not be single). So it's the same as market forces. If the demand exceeds the supply, the standard gets lowered. I'm sure not 40% of women want to remain single so once the smaller pool of degreed guys is spoken for the rest of the gals will have to start sorting through the so called uneducated guys.

I hate it when they do that. I know your life is incomplete and I don't blame you for being unhappy about it but remember, there's probably some starving guy in Africa who'd trade places with you and consider years of celibacy a small price to pay in renter for regular meals. Actually I'm pretty sure that's why so many guys joined monasteries during the middle ages.

Well that's my two cents anyway.

i get hopefulish, go on dating sites/mostly cl now, see yet again more women going on and on about how aweful guys like me are for not making a bunch of money. then i get depressed. its just s**t like that every day. not one woman who would date a guy like me. after 2 years or 600 and something days, 2-3 post a day. well i suppose theres some 45 year olds but they are out of my range. and eww. but even most of them say the same things.

not much good happens in my life except the occasional good game of battlefield 4, its 30/70 to have a good game vrs one where i get killed over and over and get super frustrated.

fantasy?

its a people trait, aspies are people still just people who lack social stuff. the other parts of our brains seem to function just fine it seems. i still somewhat hope but its less and less so each day.

o.O <tilts head> <blinks>

they don't do it directly so its not ego its just they know their worth and don't want trash like me as a bf.
judgemental, yeah, wildly assuming, yeah, generalizing massively yeah, jerk. Idk. but they have all the power and i don't so meh.

kind hearts are worthless compared to dollars.

but I don't have a masters in science. I can't be intelligent. o.O <tilts head> <blinks>

i'm funny though apparently and well they probably lied but some use to say cute in my behavior.

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I don't know what women in Australia are like. what's here name is from there I think and she isn't like that.

but that means theres a 99% chance I won't so I'd be more likely to be hit by lighting which is very unlikely.
so I'm 99% more likely to live in hell for another 60 years slowly dying inside.
yeah but I'll be dead so I won't care or know. death is freedom. I want to live but not like this. I don't want to die, but see no other choice. I fear pain and death.

I'm working on being security, that is if I can pass the test tomorrow after class. I am taking the best notes I can but I still really worried. I wish I could just copy everything over to my notes from the book.
I though getting my degree would do that but it only made things worse. I think having a full time job will distract me for 8 hours a day but at the end of the day I'll be in my room alone crying to sleep every night.

the whole world can't be wrong. they don't call people worthless to their face they do it through proximity. you put it on your facebook page how people who are ____________________, are sh***y horrible people who should die. you didn't go tell john he is that, heck you might not even realize john is that, but john knows. on dating sites they don't care they just want to avoid the worthless trash(me) we are worthless to them so why should they care if I get hurt or die well heck they want me to die so they'd be happy one less worthless s**t in this life taking up space. now if for some miracle I got a job paying over 20 an hour and my own place then bam i'd be worth something but that isn't how life works, the rich stay rich and the poor poor or the rich wouldn't be rich.


well there's a lot more scholarships set to get women to school just like for blacks. which was good cause use to be far less of them were able to, but now it puts men at a disadvantage when i tried to apply for scholarships there were like 3-1 ratio of ones geared towards women and minorities then towards men. also a lot more jobs that women tend to go for here require degrees, where as jobs like, warehouse, machinist, factory etc, don't require any so strong men and yes strong women can do those without a degree. we have a lot and i mean a lot of nursing and dentist students here mostly women. then there's lots of business, accounting, marketing, etc. I didn't even need the degree to work as a mechanic. don't get me wrong I'm super happy women are getting degrees and good jobs. but that doesn't' change the ratio. far less guys go to college here. so theres just not enough "high quality" or "real men" to go around.

nah they hold out for the qualty man and complain that they can't find one. tons of this on okc/pof/cl/fb/
wheres all the "real men" is a common post.
can't compare women to supply and demand, doesn't work like that with people we aren't objects. they've been raise and told they don't have to lower their standards, its the me me me generation after all. also usually the standard doesn't get lowered they just lower the price of stuff or stop making it.
another problem how do they know all the quality men are taken until its been years and its too late. i might fish in a pond for months before I realize the pond was emptied by the state a week before I cam out. there's no singles list of quality men that they can check to see they all taken lol. so they wait on dating sites and complain. also some women would rather be single then lower their standards.

so how do I find a trash woman? I don't think such a thing exists so idk.