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12 Nov 2007, 6:01 am

Hello Irulan
I would interpret your symptoms as AS. The decription you give of periods of sleep difficulties for a week and whirling thoughts suggests bi-polar. It is not a rare co-diagnosis with Asperger's.

Have you taken any of the several online tests for Aspergers? That is what convinced me to get diagnosed since I scored higher than AS (I am actually HFA) I don't want to know how my English is as I have been told I have an accent and can't speak correctly as you do. AS includes more verbal ability that I have available. Yours is fine.



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12 Nov 2007, 8:29 am

It's a refreshing awareness to find out someone took the trouble to dig out my old thread and was interested in reading this :D I'm sure I don't have bipolar disorder. Anyway, I have just checked the description in Wikipedia and I don't fit. Speaking of sleep difficulties, they came back again :x For about a week I wake up about 3.30 in the middle of the night and I have problems with falling asleep again.

I took a lot of tests available online and even though I didn't have really high score, they indicate I may have it (for example for the last time my aspie score was 154 of 200 while my NT score was 66 of 200, my Baron-Cohen test score is 31 points and having taken part in Roger Meyers' test I had 94 of 135 points).



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12 Nov 2007, 10:39 am

Irulan wrote:
It's a refreshing awareness to find out someone took the trouble to dig out my old thread and was interested in reading this :D I'm sure I don't have bipolar disorder. Anyway, I have just checked the description in Wikipedia and I don't fit. Speaking of sleep difficulties, they came back again :x For about a week I wake up about 3.30 in the middle of the night and I have problems with falling asleep again.

I took a lot of tests available online and even though I didn't have really high score, they indicate I may have it (for example for the last time my aspie score was 154 of 200 while my NT score was 66 of 200, my Baron-Cohen test score is 31 points and having taken part in Roger Meyers' test I had 94 of 135 points).


You DO sound AS, and you seem to be doing fine. Even the insomnia seems to be a relatively common AS trait, especially when you are younger.



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12 Nov 2007, 1:52 pm

Looks like reasonable evidence :)
I don't know what Roger Meyer test you took. I got 13.3 of 15. Maybe there is another version that I can't find, so can't say on that one.
Go for a diagnosis if you want one or think it would help for services
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12 Nov 2007, 3:47 pm

I was trying to find that test but I couldn't in spite of a long searching the Web. I never heard about that version of it you're speaking about. 8O Do you have the link to it? I'm planning to do something about diagnosis but I won't be able to do it in the closest time because I don't earn money on my own. Generally doctors in my country don't have knowledge about AS and a doctor chosen at a guess may also belong to this group, especially as I live in a small town and here or even in close area I won't find a specialist for sure. I'd like to have a diagnosis but I don't want any benefits from this. It's strange, indeed, there's a possibility I may have AS. Watching films with a motive of an autistic child (a popular stereotype; in all those movies there were only children showed and all of them had LFA) unconsciously I was congratulating myself that in contrast to those movies' characters I was far from autism not less than Sahara desert's far from Antarctica (in terms of geographical position and climate :lol: ). It's a veritable irony :lol:



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12 Nov 2007, 4:26 pm

Irulan wrote:
I was trying to find that test but I couldn't in spite of a long searching the Web. I never heard about that version of it you're speaking about. 8O Do you have the link to it? I'm planning to do something about diagnosis but I won't be able to do it in the closest time because I don't earn money on my own. Generally doctors in my country don't have knowledge about AS and a doctor chosen at a guess may also belong to this group, especially as I live in a small town and here or even in close area I won't find a specialist for sure. I'd like to have a diagnosis but I don't want any benefits from this. It's strange, indeed, there's a possibility I may have AS. Watching films with a motive of an autistic child (a popular stereotype; in all those movies there were only children showed and all of them had LFA) unconsciously I was congratulating myself that in contrast to those movies' characters I was far from autism not less than Sahara desert's far from Antarctica (in terms of geographical position and climate :lol: ). It's a veritable irony :lol:


I know how you feel. I am the same way. But AS, at least as it was originally written, EXCLUDES the idea of LFA. Oh well. :lol:



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12 Nov 2007, 4:42 pm

Btw, today I read a thread written by parents of 18 years old boy with AS. According to them, his IQ is only 76; he doesn't have any interests (his dad took an attempt to make him interested in computer games, hoping this way the boy'd pal up with somebody when he had some common ground to talk to other young people but he wasn't eager to do this because even turning the computer on and entering the game is too big mental effort for him 8O ) The boy's mother having read posts on that forum was flabbergasted it's possible to have AS and not to be so low functioning 8O Having read that description I'd think the boy had LFA while his parents claim he's diagnosed with AS 8O



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12 Nov 2007, 5:48 pm

Irulan wrote:
Btw, today I read a thread written by parents of 18 years boy with AS. According to them, his IQ is only 76; he doesn't have any interests (his dad took an attempt to make him interested in computer games, hoping this way the boy'd pal up with somebody when he had some common ground to talk with other young people but he wasn't eager to do this because even turning the computer on and entering the game is too big mental effort for him 8O ) The boy's mother having read posts on that forum was flabbergasted it's possible to have AS and not to be so low functioning 8O Having read that description I'd think the boy had LFA while his parents claim he's diagnosed with AS 8O


I think his doctor must have been an idiot! The DSM said NO clinically significant cognitive impairment outside of social. The person you describe OBVIOUSLY has significant impairment.



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12 Nov 2007, 6:04 pm

Irulan wrote:
Btw, today I read a thread written by parents of 18 years boy with AS. According to them, his IQ is only 76; he doesn't have any interests (his dad took an attempt to make him interested in computer games, hoping this way the boy'd pal up with somebody when he had some common ground to talk with other young people but he wasn't eager to do this because even turning the computer on and entering the game is too big mental effort for him 8O ) The boy's mother having read posts on that forum was flabbergasted it's possible to have AS and not to be so low functioning 8O Having read that description I'd think the boy had LFA while his parents claim he's diagnosed with AS 8O

Barry George [the man blamed for shooting Jill Dando] has an IQ of 76 and was diagnosed with AS,think one point less than that is when they rule out AS if basing it on IQ.


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14 Nov 2007, 3:56 am

Irulan wrote:
I was trying to find that test but I couldn't in spite of a long searching the Web. I never heard about that version of it you're speaking about. . . Do you have the link to it?...

testing:
http://www.aspires-relationships.com/li ... ting_1.htm

RogerNMeyer.com test: http://www.rogernmeyer.com/adult_acts_a ... rsion.html

took hours to find this- I might have scored it incorrectly because it seemed wrong to divide the first part by 72 and only got 4.3points plus the next part at one point each. Could be other versions too.


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16 Nov 2007, 4:46 pm

eScential wrote:
Irulan wrote:
I was trying to find that test but I couldn't in spite of a long searching the Web. I never heard about that version of it you're speaking about. . . Do you have the link to it?...

testing:
http://www.aspires-relationships.com/li ... ting_1.htm

RogerNMeyer.com test: http://www.rogernmeyer.com/adult_acts_a ... rsion.html

took hours to find this- I might have scored it incorrectly because it seemed wrong to divide the first part by 72 and only got 4.3points plus the next part at one point each. Could be other versions too.


Thanks, eScential :D I'm going to check them on the next day - today I'm too sleepy.



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16 Nov 2007, 5:28 pm

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Go out from my thread and from other threads where you don't have anything to say, you foolish troll :?



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05 Nov 2014, 12:03 pm

I think that the autor of this topic definately has a form of AS. It is really interesting case. I have some similarities with it. Although she looks more gifted and mature than I, and not kooky, I think that she has worse "aucorigia" (developmental condition with autocontrast (asynchronous development) and originality ("bizarrities")) than me.

I am scholastically quite versatile (but I found people with similar problems who had better scholastic achievements), she looks more intelligent and she has for me other type of something, which I named "hyperlogia", it is more "intelligent" sort of ASD than traditional, "rigid" one described by Kanner which may looks as "just giftedness". It may cause learning and motor problems, but it is much more than visual-spatial-motor disorder ("true" NLD). Hyperlogia (at least in it severer forms) is really impairing condition, I think that many cases of it are misdiagnosed and misnamed as "nonverbal learning disorder". Obsessiveness, social ineptitude, emotional (or even thinking) disturbances and pecularities, sensory problems, "activity" disorders (such as stimming, hyperkinetic behaviors, hyperactivity, ADD, SCT, ADHD (hyperactivity), social problems (such as dyssemia, but also other social difficuties) are not symptoms of LD, but of PDD.

Not all cases of ASD are Kanner-like.



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06 Nov 2014, 3:05 am

Hey there, we don't allow here necro posting aka reviving old threads from several years ago.