WrongPlanet.net
WP Members: > 80,000



Aspie Affection

New Today: 11
New Yesterday: 22

Mensa - organization for intelligent people 1, 2, 3, 4  Next  
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Wrong Planet Autism Forum Index -> General Autism Discussion     
zendell
Art of Zen
Phoenix


Joined: Nov 11, 2007
Posts: 1174
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: Mensa - organization for intelligent people Reply with quote

I heard about this organization awhile ago and the IQ thread reminded me of it. Mensa is for people whose IQ is in the top 2% of the population. That's the one and only requirement for membership. They offer about 200 Special Interest Groups and provide social interaction with other intelligent people as well as other benefits. They have 100,000 members in over 40 countries. I think some aspies here may be interested. I wouldn't be surprised if an aspie created Mensa and I think there are probably lots of aspies who are members.

Mensa information - http://www.mensa.org

I'm not a member. If anyone here is a member, I'm interested in what you think of it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dhp
Phoenix
Phoenix


Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Age: 41
Posts: 635

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are two requirements: the aforementioned one, and 2 - you have to be a egotistical jerk. My opinion, but it stands.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MusicMaker1
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl


Joined: Dec 10, 2007
Age: 42
Posts: 154

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard that another requirement for membership is to pay them a huge sum of money every year.... not sure how much it is though...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dhp
Phoenix
Phoenix


Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Age: 41
Posts: 635

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By the way, I'm hopefully not a jerk, but I have met people from Mensa...you don't want to meet them.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
2ukenkerl
Phoenix
Phoenix


Joined: Jul 20, 2007
Posts: 6931

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AW, I met one person in mensa that seemed nice. Unfortunately, she DID agree with Dhp, and is probably not a member any more. I don't think the dues are that high, but why pay if you can't see a benefit.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Grey_Kameleon
Pileated woodpecker
Pileated woodpecker


Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Age: 26
Posts: 193

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the only benefit is a head trip, that would explain why the members may tend towards snootery.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
CityAsylum
Venio. Exeunt omnes.
Phoenix


Joined: Jan 08, 2008
Posts: 3603

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, Zendell is on the right track - a lot of people join who spent their school years hearing how 'retarded' they were, when in fact they were being bullied because they were so different. (Yes. Many Aspies.)

Acceptance in Mensa is often the first 'proof' they have ever had that they aren't so stupid after all.

But, as others of you have noted, many Mensa members are simply egomaniacal jerks Very Happy
_________________
I'm as puzzled as a newborn child


Last edited by CityAsylum on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:56 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
2ukenkerl
Phoenix
Phoenix


Joined: Jul 20, 2007
Posts: 6931

PostPosted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grey_Kameleon wrote:
If the only benefit is a head trip, that would explain why the members may tend towards snootery.


Yo would THINK that they would appreciate smart people, and try to enjoy learning and being challenged. From what I have seen/heard, that is generally NOT the case. It was a nice CONCEPT though, just like TRUE communism is. They both meet the SAME fate for the SAME reason. 8-(
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Whisperer
Velociraptor
Velociraptor


Joined: Oct 14, 2007
Posts: 460

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meh, I probably don't qualify - I'm just below the borderline.
I considered joining once and seeing if I could get along with those but I kept getting the feeling that even if I did luck out on the test and make it in I wouldn't be comfortable there.

I've heard what they say too; though I don't want to jump to conclusions - whenever someone mentions Mensa someone has to mention the elitism thing. . . there must be something going on.

I'm not sure what to think of supposedly very high IQ people who are very unpleasant - like for example some guy at another forum who implied he was in Mensa; his entire demeanour, avatar and sig was a huge trolling bait of wanton condescending remarks right and left.
Once, looking for info on "giftedness", I ran into this tiny forum called "Gifted Geniuses" - with Mensa-like imagery on the banner and galaxies and whatnot - and like, every thread was like a copy and paste from Wikipedia on String Theory or some such with two or 3 replies; 10 active posters at most. Not only it was insipid; the site owner had his posts full of words like "pathetic", "laughable", "sad", "idiots", etc. . .

Then again, one reason I hate my job is that it implies an environment where people get away with being stupid and mediocre through social networking; yesterday I was in this meeting with IT people - myself trying to clarify something about an application they were basically selling us - and I almost lost it trying to get them (my boss included) to grasp the issue I wanted to point out (I don't think anyone understood - not even after 3 times).
I guess it's an annoying range to be - not really belonging to anything.


Last edited by Whisperer on Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:43 am; edited 3 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sinsboldly
Free Range Aspie
Phoenix


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Age: 63
Posts: 15256

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dhp wrote:
There are two requirements: the aforementioned one, and 2 - you have to be a egotistical jerk. My opinion, but it stands.


well, you don't HAVE to be, but in the 20 some years I have been a member, it certainly helps!

Merle
_________________
“Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.” – Albert Camus
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
spudnik
one year older, and not much wiser
Phoenix


Joined: Feb 20, 2008
Posts: 4176
Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the mensa requirements, regarding IQ, I do have an IQ of 137, but it hasn't helped my in any way, other then useless trivia, I have no degrees to show for it, and I am glad I don't, there are to many people with a useless piece of paper working retail.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
IdahoAspie
Phoenix
Phoenix


Joined: Nov 30, 2007
Posts: 729

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mensa is an idiotic organization. If they were smart, they would know that an IQ score doesn't have any real meaning.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
CityAsylum
Venio. Exeunt omnes.
Phoenix


Joined: Jan 08, 2008
Posts: 3603

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spudnik wrote:
What are the mensa requirements, regarding IQ, I do have an IQ of 137.

Different IQ tests have different scores, so it is the percentile for that particular test you took that counts to Mensa.

The requirement is that members be in the 98th percentile, or better. Intertel and the Top One Percent Society require that you score in the 99th percentile.

I cannot even imagine what good it would do to mention such a membership to anyone; it's not as if you could put a thing like that on your résumé, or mention it with a straight face during a job interview - it really ticks people off.
_________________
I'm as puzzled as a newborn child
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
sinsboldly
Free Range Aspie
Phoenix


Joined: Nov 22, 2006
Age: 63
Posts: 15256

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CityAsylum wrote:
spudnik wrote:
What are the mensa requirements, regarding IQ, I do have an IQ of 137.

Different IQ tests have different scores, so it is the percentile for that particular test you took that counts to Mensa.

The requirement is that members be in the 98th percentile, or better. Intertel and the Top One Percent Society require that you score in the 99th percentile.

I cannot even imagine what good it would do to mention such a membership to anyone; it's not as if you could put a thing like that on your résumé, or mention it with a straight face during a job interview - it really ticks people off.


well, it's sorta like hanging out with other Aspies. . I can barely stand to hang with other Aspies. .. and I can barely stand to hang with other Mensa folks. But they are people like you and you get to be around people that are smarter than you, too and frankly how often does THAT happen, I mean that is refreshing right there. I get to feel sorta 'normal' for a while, If being around others like you makes you feel 'normal'. You also get to not feel like such a dork just because you are smart, and all their lives they have been sorta like Aspies are. . a fish on a bicycle.

Merle
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Chadk
Blue Jay
Blue Jay


Joined: Mar 22, 2008
Age: 23
Posts: 87

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IdahoAspie wrote:
Mensa is an idiotic organization. If they were smart, they would know that an IQ score doesn't have any real meaning.

Something about a hammer and a nail springs to mind.

Well said.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Wrong Planet Autism Forum Index -> General Autism Discussion   
1, 2, 3, 4  Next  

 
Read more Articles on Wrong Planet



Wrong Planet is a Registered Trademark.
Copyright 2004-2014, Wrong Planet, LLC and Alex Plank. Alex does public speaking for Autism.

Advertise on Wrong Planet

Alex Hotchalk / Glam 

Alex Plank  Aspie Affection 

Terms of Service - You must read this as a user of Wrong Planet | Privacy Policy

Subscribe: RSS Feed  Wrong Planet News  Wrong Planet Forums




fine art