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03 Feb 2009, 7:32 pm

There is a radio station in many countries called Family Radio. On this station, a program is aired called Open Forum by Howard Camping. Camping is a Bible teacher and is certain that a rapture of all the true believers of Christ will take place on May 21, 2011 and that the end of the world will be on October 21, 2011. 8O He claims that those months following this rapture will be Hell on Earth. He writes books too. Before, he tried to say that the end was going to be in 1994 but it didn't happen so he went back into the Old Testament, did more calculations and now he came up with those other dates. What do think about this guy and about this whole idea? I heard that in the Jewish faith "Eschatology" (predicting the end) isn't permitted. Also, why is it that only in the Christian religion do people see Jesus in tortillas and the Virgin Mary in
ice cream sundaes, etc...I never heard a Buddhist say that he saw the Buddah in a bowl of noodles. What gives here?? :roll: I enjoy the other programs on Family Radio but Camping gets on my nerves. He's got a big ego for an 85 year old...but it'll be a b***h if he's right :lol:



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03 Feb 2009, 7:35 pm

people want the end so bad..I dontI plan to bearound well after 2011


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03 Feb 2009, 7:40 pm

Many Christians are fascinated enough by the rapture, they truly hope it will happen in their lifetime so they will be able to see and experience it. I am not even a Christian, but I am a bit fascinated by the end of the world too.



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03 Feb 2009, 7:44 pm

The only date I know tied with the end of Earth is when the sun becomes a red giant..and even then..its disagrred upon if it will be come engulfed or not by it


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03 Feb 2009, 7:53 pm

^Yeah. I wish it would happen in my lifetime, so I would be able to see and experience it. :wink:



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03 Feb 2009, 8:10 pm

I find the whole rapture thing a bit weird and sinister. Generally, if you believe something when there's no evidence for it, you want it to be true. That's why hell is such a nasty concept. If you want to believe in a benevolent creator and eternal life, I can understand that. But why believe in eternal torture for people you don't like, or the end of the world for everyone but you and your buddies, who get a trip to paradise. And this guy's so keen on the idea he's believed it twice! What a bastard.


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03 Feb 2009, 8:28 pm

Matthew 24:36 (NIV):

The Apostle Matthew wrote:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Matthew 24:42 (NIV):
The Apostle Matthew wrote:
"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

Now, any real Christian would see these two verses and know that Howard Camping is lying and/or delusional. :roll:

Heck, even I think so! :wink:


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03 Feb 2009, 8:52 pm

Why do people with any ability at all to think listen to the babbling of idiots?



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03 Feb 2009, 8:53 pm

RightGalaxy wrote:
There is a radio station in many countries called Family Radio. On this station, a program is aired called Open Forum by Howard Camping. Camping is a Bible teacher and is certain that a rapture of all the true believers of Christ will take place on May 21, 2011 and that the end of the world will be on October 21, 2011. 8O He claims that those months following this rapture will be Hell on Earth. He writes books too. Before, he tried to say that the end was going to be in 1994 but it didn't happen so he went back into the Old Testament, did more calculations and now he came up with those other dates. What do think about this guy and about this whole idea? I heard that in the Jewish faith "Eschatology" (predicting the end) isn't permitted. Also, why is it that only in the Christian religion do people see Jesus in tortillas and the Virgin Mary in
ice cream sundaes, etc...I never heard a Buddhist say that he saw the Buddah in a bowl of noodles. What gives here?? :roll: I enjoy the other programs on Family Radio but Camping gets on my nerves. He's got a big ego for an 85 year old...but it'll be a b***h if he's right :lol:


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(Im referring to Howard Camping, NOT you RightGalaxy)



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03 Feb 2009, 9:06 pm

It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.


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03 Feb 2009, 9:06 pm

Fnord wrote:
Matthew 24:36 (NIV):
The Apostle Matthew wrote:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

Matthew 24:42 (NIV):
The Apostle Matthew wrote:
"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know on what day your Lord will come."

Now, any real Christian would see these two verses and know that Howard Camping is lying and/or delusional. :roll:

Heck, even I think so! :wink:


I agree 100%



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03 Feb 2009, 9:56 pm

Sir Isaac Newton one predicted the world would end no earlier than 2060 (though it could be later), and gave a rather interesting reason for it:

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This I mention not to assert when the time of the end shall be, but to put a stop to the rash conjectures of fancifull men who are frequently predicting the time of the end, & by doing so bring the sacred prophesies into discredit as often as their predictions fail. Christ comes as a thief in the night, & it is not for us to know the times & seasons wch God hath put into his own breast.








history_of_psychiatry wrote:
It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.

:lmao:

We need a documentary on Y2K... and how it was the biggest joke ever...



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04 Feb 2009, 12:45 am

history_of_psychiatry wrote:
It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.


Now you're talkin! :D



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04 Feb 2009, 1:42 am

Haliphron wrote:
history_of_psychiatry wrote:
It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.


Now you're talkin! :D


People don't seem to have noticed.The incessant conflicts, the loss of life and environment in the sea, the coming devastation of inhabited areas by global warming, the huge stocks of nuclear armaments set ready to destroy the atmosphere and spread deadly radiation, the total inability of governments to stabilize the financial situation, the crazies who are foaming at the mouth at the new coming of Jesus, the development of self sustaining robots that will quickly outpace humans in intellect and efficiency, the world has already ended.



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04 Feb 2009, 2:17 am

Sand wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
history_of_psychiatry wrote:
It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.


Now you're talkin! :D


People don't seem to have noticed.The incessant conflicts, the loss of life and environment in the sea, the coming devastation of inhabited areas by global warming, the huge stocks of nuclear armaments set ready to destroy the atmosphere and spread deadly radiation, the total inability of governments to stabilize the financial situation, the crazies who are foaming at the mouth at the new coming of Jesus, the development of self sustaining robots that will quickly outpace humans in intellect and efficiency, the world has already ended.


This was taking place DECADES before the year 2000 my friend. When exactly do YOU think that the world ended?



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04 Feb 2009, 2:41 am

Haliphron wrote:
Sand wrote:
Haliphron wrote:
history_of_psychiatry wrote:
It is more likely that the world will end in the year 2000. When the ball drops, all computers will simultaniously crash and the world will fall.


Now you're talkin! :D


People don't seem to have noticed.The incessant conflicts, the loss of life and environment in the sea, the coming devastation of inhabited areas by global warming, the huge stocks of nuclear armaments set ready to destroy the atmosphere and spread deadly radiation, the total inability of governments to stabilize the financial situation, the crazies who are foaming at the mouth at the new coming of Jesus, the development of self sustaining robots that will quickly outpace humans in intellect and efficiency, the world has already ended.


This was taking place DECADES before the year 2000 my friend. When exactly do YOU think that the world ended?


All the decisions have all been made, nobody is paying much attention to the final wind-down. but there may be a few spectacular explosions when New York and Washington DC and London and Paris get their ICBMs. I am in the last stages of selecting the mountain top for my followers to await being swept away by a huge flying saucer I have contacted by crystal radio which will take us to a mother ship that will drop us off on an Earth type planet near Alpha Centaurus. We are in special need of people who know how to make flint arrowheads and do decent weaving from rough spun threads. We already have a surfeit of potters and a few people who can turn out a decent pizza in a stone oven but tomato sauce and Parmesan cheese might be a problem. Initiation fees to join my select group come to a mere $25000 per person with discounts for clever children or people who can bring a few pigs or cows. I am working out the details and will get back to you later. I am not interested in people who have the delusion that Jesus has a hand in the matter since this is purely a practical occasion and religious fanatics would only cause unnecessary problems.