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Do you respect the right not to be called Autistic?
Yes - Each Individual Should Choose Identity priority and reference. 72%  72%  [ 23 ]
No - Stigmatize freely for political reasons and without respect to personal choice. 28%  28%  [ 9 ]
Total votes : 32

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03 Apr 2011, 1:45 am

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It is a sublime or self-perceived ethical obligation to be aborted.
This is a very interesting concern and from society, and also other political issues - such as an ethical obligation to be open for discussion for scientific reasons - it can also be a major part of developing potential in life.


It is a very interesting concerns and as simply a form of the brain fart in life.

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The ultimate form of rejection, when applicable, and having become derived from society - other political issues such as these are very interesting concerns and it can be argued that as a self-perceived ethical obligation, it is to define autism as simply a difference.


Wrong. The ultimate form of rejection, when applicable, and it is to define autism as a difference. The ultimate form of rejection, when applicable, and having become derived from society - other political issues such as simply a self-perceived ethical obligation, it can be argued that as simply a difference.

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As well as experiences in society of self and as well as a form of preservation of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as simply a difference, such as in prenatal testing, and as simply a form of self that cure is a major part of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem as the issue should be aborted.


Indeed. As well as experiences in prenatal testing, and as in society of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem as in society of self and as simply a form of self that cure is a form of self and as well as simply a major part of self and as in society of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as simply a major part of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as well as well as experiences in society of self.

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So I will add to also what I will add, to see if others can add to the container fogs of the undeveloped theory - and reply again soon to also what I understand of the brain fart in a petri dish.


This is to the undeveloped theory - it can add to be open for discussion for discussion for scientific reasons - such as the issue should be aborted.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:07 am

It is a very interesting concerns and having become derived from society - such as in a petri dish. This is the society of the brain in prenatal testing, and having become derived from society of self as well as simply a very interesting difference. The ultimate form of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as political issues - and having become derived from society, and as simply a major part of self, an ethical autism as a difference.

The ultimate form of self that cure is to also be a major part of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem as in a major experiences in society of form as self and from society of self.

As well as simply a difference? Wrong. Methane!

The ultimate form of Cornflake wrote:

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As well as the brain fart in life. It is to be aborted. This is to be open for discussion for discussion for scientific reasons - such as simply a major part of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem as well as these are very interesting concerns and reply again soon to be aborted. This is a form of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as in society of self, an ethical obligation to be argued that cure is to define autism as well as simply a petri dish.


This is a major difference, such as simply a form of self, an autism obligation to be open for discussion for aborted reasons - and it can also be aborted.

Indeed. As well as the issue should be a form of applicable self and as a form of the society of the fogs of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem.

This is to define autism as simply a form of rejection, when applicable, and as experiences in prenatal testing, and as well as simply a form of self that cure is a form of.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:13 am

ZeroGravitas wrote:
Wrong. The ultimate form of rejection, when applicable, and it is to define autism as a difference. The ultimate form of rejection, when applicable, and having become derived from society - other political issues such as simply a self-perceived ethical obligation, it can be argued that as simply a difference.
But then again, other political issues such as prenatal testing and a sublime or self-perceived ethical obligation should be a major part of the preservation of preservation itself. If the issue should be open for discussion, then the discussion must be resolved for ethical or scientific reasons in a petri dish. It is relevant.

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Indeed. As well as experiences in prenatal testing, and as in society of rejection, but sometimes self-esteem as in society of self and as simply a form of self that cure is a form of self and as well as simply a major part of self and as in society of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as simply a major part of self, an ethical obligation to define autism as well as well as experiences in society of self.
Surely, if the ultimate form of preservation of perceived rejection (when applicable) and thus received from society - any such perceived rejection from society should be considered along with fog. But can it be simply a difference, as prenatal testing might indicate, and a form of rejection from society, inclusive of course of other political issues such as experiences in society of developing a self-life in society? I'm not so sure the issue is as clear as it appears above.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:20 am

You two thinking about becoming philosophers? As the saying goes I hit the nail dead center. Meaning this is a core issue of adversity and I think I got it right with one to three more sentences to add. When you two are done scrambling it all up which is likely a form of entertainment I will read it all.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:22 am

Cornflake wrote:
But then again, other political issues such as prenatal testing and a sublime or self-perceived ethical obligation should be a major part of the preservation of preservation itself. If the issue should be open for discussion, then the discussion must be resolved for ethical or scientific reasons in a petri dish. It is relevant.


But then again, other political issues such as prenatal testing. It is relevant. But then the issue should be resolved for relevant ethical or scientific reasons in a petri dish. It is relevant.

But then again, a major part of the discussion must be resolved for ethical or scientific reasons in a petri dish.

But then the discussion must be open for discussion, then the discussion must be resolved for discussion, then the preservation of the discussion must be open for discussion, then the discussion must be open for discussion, then the preservation itself.

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Surely, if the ultimate form of preservation of perceived rejection (when applicable) and thus received from society - any such perceived rejection from society should be considered along with fog. But can it be simply a difference, as prenatal testing might indicate, and a form of rejection from society, inclusive of course of other political issues such as experiences in society of developing a self-life in society? I'm not so sure the issue is as clear as it appears above.


Surely, if the ultimate form of preservation of other political issues such as prenatal testing might indicate, and a difference, as clear as clear as prenatal testing might indicate, and thus received from society, inclusive of preservation of preservation of perceived rejection from society of preservation of perceived rejection from society - any such perceived rejection from society should be simply a difference, as it appears above.

If the issue is as it be considered along with self-life in society? I'm not so sure the issue is as society might indicate, and thus testing from society - any such perceived rejection from autism society should be considered along with difference.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:27 am

* Shakes Cornflake's hand*

I think we have adequately identified and resolved our difference of opinion.

Let's agree to disagree, Cornflake.

As you were, ci.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:30 am

* Tips hat to ZeroGravitas *

I'm so happy we've arrived at a mutual resolution.
It's been a pleasure debating these issues in depth with you.


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03 Apr 2011, 2:45 am

In the interim enjoy this song.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9hOFOgqOds[/youtube]


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12 Apr 2011, 6:05 pm

I dislike the Autism Spectrum terminology. They should either rename Autistic Disorder to something else and keep the Autism Spectrum label for all five conditions or rename the Spectrum to something else.

Saying that Asperger's is a "form of autism" is like saying melanoma is a form of leukemia.



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18 Apr 2011, 12:04 pm

This revolution in thinking is coming from all of the years of hard work in the people with disabilities movement. It is called the "people first" approach. I like it personally, and continue to tell people about it. I am not epileptic; I am a person with a seizure disorder. I am not Autistic; I am a person who is on the spectrum.



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03 May 2011, 7:26 pm

DenaCR wrote:
This revolution in thinking is coming from all of the years of hard work in the people with disabilities movement. It is called the "people first" approach. I like it personally, and continue to tell people about it. I am not epileptic; I am a person with a seizure disorder. I am not Autistic; I am a person who is on the spectrum.


Fantastic approach.


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07 May 2011, 4:12 pm

I voted no by accident.

I'm an AS and that is a part of me.
I would rather be called an autist than different



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07 May 2011, 5:00 pm

I have what is called "autism" as well. But autism is a man made concept to describe a disorder. I choose to just think of myself as me. I wouldn't want for me to be called "autistic man" because why would I want to be quite similarly and in implied meaning called "disordered man". As a result I also have little desire to redefine the disorder and just realize it is a label to help rather then otherwise.


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11 May 2011, 1:16 pm

I AM AUTISTIC!! !

What would you rather be called? ret*d? That's what people used to call me.


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11 May 2011, 1:32 pm

This post was made for a specific set of reasons.

* The use of words such as the difference between saying "he has autism" vs. "That's an autistic man" for instance. Where I live it is highly disrespectfull to call someone or refer to them by a disorder label first.

* Personal life decisions and respect. If someone does not want to be called a disorder label they shouldn't be in accordance with common sense political correctness. Even if it enhances awareness somehow the right to dignity for instance within governmental funded circles supersedes in this context the right to awareness methods that in-dignify per say which is subjective based upon perspective.

* You will notice Autism Speaks for instance does not commonly say a disorder label and then the individual such as autistic individual but rather individual with autism. Whereas in political circles known for abortion issues they demand disorder first language or else it is insulting according to their version of socio-cultural politics. Effectively making autism the disorder label more so attached to the psychological self-identity thus effecting more potentially the self-esteem by means of heightened social and emotional sensitivities toward the autism label and the self identity image.

* Ultimately the "a" word itself and the image of it in society is the pride advocacy plight. My proposition due to the complexity of the issue is to drop the "a" word because the right to dignity of a disorder label and the self-image does not supersede the right to treatment pursuits, cures and the disorder aspects in awareness required to achieve social services priorities politically, accommodations and entitlement recognitions.

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11 May 2011, 2:29 pm

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Oh I'm sorry I only speak dog

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