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05 Nov 2013, 12:27 am

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She appears to be brandishing a weapon.

it's just a prop, that actress is a babe and a half.

Looking that foxy she may need a weapon to beat the men off.

or they may just beat themselves off.


EW!! ! :lol:



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05 Nov 2013, 12:38 am

wozeree wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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She appears to be brandishing a weapon.

it's just a prop, that actress is a babe and a half.

Looking that foxy she may need a weapon to beat the men off.

or they may just beat themselves off.


EW!! ! :lol:

sorry, couldn't resist that one :lmao:



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05 Nov 2013, 9:42 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pam_Grier

She apparently starred in some "Blaxploitation" films in her younger days, so she must have been the inspiration for a large number of solo performances.

Wikipedia wrote:
Grier has stated that her multiracial ancestry includes African American, Native American (viz. Cheyenne), Hispanic American, Filipino American


Recent photo:

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From her "Blaxploitation" days:

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09 Nov 2013, 12:18 am

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The Civilazation of Maxwell Bright is a film about an American misogynist that gets a mail order bride from Asia.The actor is very convincing as the worst as*hole ever.


Thanks very much for the recommendation. :salut: :wtg:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvMYdQCo4XY[/youtube]

The lead actress is also quite amazing, as the best wife ever. :heart:



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09 Nov 2013, 10:14 am

^^^Glad you liked it.Amazingly he turns into a ok fellow at the end.And she is stunning.


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09 Nov 2013, 2:24 pm

it is a puzzlement to me, how people get together in the first place.



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09 Nov 2013, 3:06 pm

^The alpha dogs like Maxwell Bright usually don't have any trouble acquiring female companionship in the USA.

You might enjoy the funny mockumentary Mail Order Wife

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377088/

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72geD_LHEU0[/youtube]

The lead actor is more similar to the stereotype of the guy who seeks a mail-order bride. :lol:



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12 Nov 2013, 11:36 am

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^^^Glad you liked it.Amazingly he turns into a ok fellow at the end.And she is stunning.


It would be difficult for a guy to watch this film without thinking "Wow. I wish I could have a wife like that."

Feminist reviews are quite predictable.

http://silentspeaking.blogspot.com/2006 ... eview.html

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...Maxwell Bright...has a big problem. Actually, he has several problems, but in order to avoid giving away some important drama from the film we'll stick to the central issue. Maxwell Bright is a rampant misogynist. Completely incapable of feeling empathy for women, Max lives in a state of perpetual angst, waiting for the next affront to come from "bull-dyke feminist pigs". Not surprisingly Mr. Bright lives a life devoid of feminine relationships...


http://shebloggedbynight.com/2010/recen ... ht-2005-2/

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....“The Civilization of Maxwell Bright” is a movie that tries hard to do the right thing, but it falls back on the old, lazy, entrenched bigotries so prevalent in Hollywood that, despite being an indie film, it might as well have been a $10M studio film for all the cultural “good” it does.

Maxwell Bright...is a f*****g as*hole. He’s an entitled, white, well-off, misogynist electronics salesman who we first see running naked out of his house, chasing his girlfriend who has just hit him on the head. It wasn’t a debilitating blow, obviously, because he’s capable of violently screaming at her about how she wants to spend a selfish 45 minutes having sex. Also, she doesn’t give him enough blow jobs like he deserves. The police arrive and both officers think he’s the aggressor, which Max blames on them being female and irrational. The girlfriend then jams a garden implement into his chest....

...That night, Arlis and other friends join Max at his house for poker. They all slam women in extremely stereotypical, sexist ways, and then Max has an “epiphany”. I wish there was a better word for it, because he didn’t so much have an epiphany as come up with a stupid, paranoid theory that he thinks explains why his life sucks: Women in the U.S. are taught to be manipulative b*****s in college, while Asian women are taught to please men and do anything for them. Therefore, he decides to get an Asian mail order bride.

This opening act is the perfect example of why the film fails. The encounter on the lawn with the police officers is an illustration of the failed post-sexist rhetoric that pervades allegedly progressive entertainment, media, and most especially Internet discussion....

...Mai Ling, who is nothing more than a caricature of the obedient Asian woman, puts up with everything Max does....


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12 Nov 2013, 10:33 pm

He was the most awful example of a man,almost as bad as my ex.
She wasn't looking for a rich husband,but did the mail order bride deal so her sister could have a good life.I thought she came across as a strong woman,then at the end she went back to her old life instead of looking for another wealthy man.


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12 Nov 2013, 10:38 pm

maybe if she had sought merely a man instead of a wealthy man her luck would've been better?



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12 Nov 2013, 11:06 pm

Her goal was to help her family and she also wound up helping the jerk she married to not be a jerk.She was a truly good person.


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12 Nov 2013, 11:12 pm

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Her goal was to help her family and she also wound up helping the jerk she married to not be a jerk.She was a truly good person.

truly a good person indeed. to borrow from henry kissenger, 90% of folks give the other 10% a bad reputation.



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16 Nov 2013, 3:41 pm

Meanwhile, in Taiwan

http://www.voanews.com/content/controve ... 80993.html

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Comments on Taiwanese Marriage Trend Spark Outrage

A legislator’s comments in Taiwan have touched off a public furor over one of the island’s stickiest social issues. Increasingly, Taiwanese men are choosing wives from overseas, and some say that is leaving growing numbers of local women without husbands.

Opposition legislator Chang Show-foong, a former writer, sparked the controversy by complaining that more and more local men are taking wives from Taiwan's poorer neighbors. Statistics show about 427,000 Taiwanese men have married foreign wives, mainly from China and Southeast Asia. Meanwhile, up to one-third of Taiwanese women over the age of 30 are unmarried, according to some estimates.

Chang said during a debate on policies for new immigrants that men often prefer the women from overseas. She said the trend of seeking wives from outside Taiwan has caused "tremendous losses to the nation" and suggested that the government offer a subsidy to the island’s unmarried women.

Chang is telling a parliamentary meeting that whenever a foreign bride comes in, a Taiwanese woman is being passed over. There are only so many men on the island, she argues, so Taiwan is left with many women who may never marry.

...Taiwan's increasingly well-educated women are often entering professional careers and earning large salaries that make them want to be accepted as equals by men.

Arrigo says that is unacceptable to some tradition-minded men, many of whom are encouraged in their views by conservative mothers. So they are turning instead to poorer, less educated women from Southeast Asia.

Many of the men who look abroad for wives are from the lower economic classes themselves, making them less appealing to upwardly-mobile Taiwanese women....


http://www.nbcnews.com/id/26124698/ns/w ... id-family/

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Vietnamese women wed foreigners to aid family: Many decide that a foreign husband is the best way out of poverty

Nearly 70 young Vietnamese women swept past in groups of five, twirling and posing like fashion models, all competing for the hand of a Taiwanese man who had paid a matchmaking service about $6,000 for the privilege of marrying one of them.

Sporting jeans and a black T-shirt, 20-year-old Le Thi Ngoc Quyen paraded in front of the stranger, hoping he would select her.

"I felt very nervous," she recalled recently as she described the scene. "But he chose me, and I agreed to marry him right away."

Like many women from the Mekong Delta island of Tan Loc, Quyen had concluded that finding a foreign husband was her best route out of poverty. Six years later, she has a beautiful daughter and no regrets.

From the delta in Vietnam's south to small rural towns in the north, a growing number of young Vietnamese women are marrying foreigners, mostly from Taiwan and South Korea. They seek material comfort and, most important, a way to save their parents from destitution in old age, which many Vietnamese consider their greatest duty.

...Quyen has not gotten rich — her husband earns a modest living as a construction worker — but the couple have paid off her father's debts.

Young women have become Tan Loc's most lucrative export. Roughly 1,500 village women from the island of 33,000 people have married foreigners in the past decade, leading some to call it Taiwan Island.

Women in Tan Loc and other delta towns began marrying foreigners in the 1990s, when Vietnam opened up economically and many Taiwanese and South Korean firms set up operations in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam's southern business hub.Poverty and the close proximity of foreign businessmen seem to be major reasons for the trend.

...With money from foreign sons-in-law, many residents in Tan Loc have replaced their thatch-roof shacks with brick homes. They have also opened small restaurants and shops, creating jobs in a place where people have traditionally earned pennies a day picking rice and other crops in the blistering sun.

The luckier families received enough to build ponds for fish farming.

Western Union has opened a branch to handle the money sent by newlyweds.

"At least 20 percent of the families on the island have been lifted out of poverty," said Phan An, a university professor who has done extensive research in Tan Loc. "There has been a significant economic impact."

...most young women in Tan Loc seem eager to marry a foreigner. Le Thanh Lang recently went to the town hall to get papers confirming she is single and eligible to marry.


"Any country will do, I'll take anyone who will accept me," she said, waving the papers. "I need to send money to my parents."

Besides the marriage broker's fee, the groom gives about $300 to his bride's family, Lang said. After that, if all goes well, her husband may send up to several thousand dollars a year to her family — depending on what he can afford.

Husbands send money to brides' families
Many Tan Loc families with married daughters abroad have big homes with color TVs, new furniture and karaoke machines.

Their neighbors live in huts.

Tran Thi Sach's concrete home, with four large rooms and shiny green tile floors, is a mansion by island standards.

"Since my daughters got married, I've retired," said Sach, 59, who used to toil in the rice fields with her husband.

"We lived in a shack," she said. "We had to work no matter how hot it was, no matter how much it rained, from 5 in the morning until 5 in the afternoon. Sometimes we could only afford rice porridge."

When her daughter Tho first said she planned to go to a marriage broker, Sach objected. What if her in-laws abused her? Where would she turn for help?

Tho married six years ago, and her younger sister Loi two years later.

"Their husbands are gentle, handsome and hardworking," Sach said. "They are really fine men."

Next door, Nguyen Thi Chin lives in a two-room shack with the roof so leaky that when it rains she must move from spot to spot to avoid getting wet. Each of her seven children married a Vietnamese, all of them poor. At 70, she is still working, pulling mussels from the muck in the Mekong River.

"I could never have a house like that," Chin said, glancing next door. "It's my destiny to be poor. If I had another daughter, I'd ask her to marry a foreigner."

...More than 100,000 Vietnamese women have married Taiwanese men over the last 10 years and the numbers are rising, said Gow Wei Chiou of the Taiwan representative office in Hanoi. In the same period, roughly 28,000 Korean men married Vietnamese, according to the Vietnam Women's Union...


It seems that Vietnamese women have become quite valuable.



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16 Nov 2013, 8:40 pm

Well, guess what? :wink:

http://www.sole-jole.org/13257.pdf

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In recent years, one in five marriages in Taiwan was to a foreign bride, mainly from China and Vietnam. In this paper we study the impact of foreign brides inflow on the domestic marriage market. We find that an inflow of foreign brides raises fertility and reduces the divorce risk of domestic couples. These results, we argue, are consistent with a model of marriage in which men employ women to produce children but women can shirk--the penalty of which is divorce. From the threat of foreign bride competition, women exert more effort, fertility increase and divorce risk declines. Our dataset consists of the universe of all marriages, divorces and the subsequent birth records between 1998-2006 in Taiwan. To address the endogeneity problem, we exploit a policy change in 2004 which restricts the entry of Chinese brides. We find that every 10 percentage points increase in foreign bride share increases local women's probability of having a child by 9.9 percentage points and decrease local women's probability of divorce by 0.79 percentage points.



Maybe what we need in the USA is a little more foreign competition, to get our women in line. :wink:

Without competition from Japan, American-made cars would probably be of a lot worse quality and a lot more expensive than they already are, as our auto-makers very much took us for granted for a very long time. Now, we probably drive more imported than domestically-manufactured cars.

Maybe we should follow Taiwan's lead and import more women. :wink: When faced with a bit of competition, divorce rates for domestic couples might fall, and fecundity rates might increase. :wink:



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17 Nov 2013, 12:04 am

There are already slightly more women than men in the US. Maybe the women aren't the problem, here.



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17 Nov 2013, 12:07 am

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There are already slightly more women than men in the US. Maybe the women aren't the problem, here.

American women have a wide rep, for better or worse, of being extraordinarily picky, compared to women of other cultures.