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28 Jan 2012, 6:55 pm

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Did anyone see that side-by-side J. Lo. picture that was floating around in another thread here? Pretty much everyone (at least the impression I got) agreed that the made up side was gorgeous, alluring, sexy. And she had a *metric buttload* of makeup on in that picture. The other side, without makeup, she just looked normal. Tired and middle-aged, maybe. You'd never, ever notice her in a million years. Maybe that's what's being said about heavy makeup being attention-getting?

hallelujah, yes.


i think when i think of 'heavy' makeup i think of awfully applied transvestite/crossdresser parodies as opposed to skillfully applied heavy makeup.
maybe that's sort of what people are thinking?



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28 Jan 2012, 6:57 pm

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i don't know anyone that has an ideal of a man with 6-pack abs. but a woman may react to seeing them. there is an important distinction there.


As long they positively react to it (like woowing or drooling) then it's an ideal physical feature.

But people don't like to talk about these stuff or even admit it so they don't appear shallow, especially women.

ok, so then women in heavy makeup are an ideal too. men react to it, therefore must like it best, right?

but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.



Well, heavy makeup is subjective - but I have never denied the makeup effect lol, why are you even arguing me on this one? There's a reason why makeup persisted among women while it died out among men ages ago in most civilizations.

Of course it reflects something ideal, maybe that's why brides usually wear "heavy" makeup (or more accurately, well put heavy makeup)?

and hyperlexian, you can always wear makeup, relax.



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28 Jan 2012, 6:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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i don't know anyone that has an ideal of a man with 6-pack abs. but a woman may react to seeing them. there is an important distinction there.


As long they positively react to it (like woowing or drooling) then it's an ideal physical feature.

But people don't like to talk about these stuff or even admit it so they don't appear shallow, especially women.

ok, so then women in heavy makeup are an ideal too. men react to it, therefore must like it best, right?

but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.



Well, heavy makeup is subjective - but I have never denied the makeup effect lol, why are you even arguing me on this one? There's a reason why makeup persisted among women while it died out among men ages ago in most civilizations.

Of course it reflects something ideal, maybe that's why brides usually wear heavy makeup?


Boo, here, that's literally just for the photographs. Everyone I know gets a professional to do their makeup on that day so that the photos will be flawless. A wedding photographer can cost thousands of dollars.

Oh, and I just commented with that J.Lo. example so that I could be sure "we" (me lurking) were all on the same page. Agree with emlion that the clown look is awful and way, way too much and probably gets attention in the bad way. {"Mommy, is that lady a clown?"}



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28 Jan 2012, 6:59 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
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i don't know anyone that has an ideal of a man with 6-pack abs. but a woman may react to seeing them. there is an important distinction there.


As long they positively react to it (like woowing or drooling) then it's an ideal physical feature.

But people don't like to talk about these stuff or even admit it so they don't appear shallow, especially women.

ok, so then women in heavy makeup are an ideal too. men react to it, therefore must like it best, right?

but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.



Well, heavy makeup is subjective - but I have never denied the makeup effect lol, why are you even arguing me on this one? There's a reason why makeup persisted among women while it died out among men ages ago in most civilizations.

Of course it reflects something ideal, maybe that's why brides usually wear "heavy" makeup (or more accurately, well put heavy makeup)?

because you didn't ever answer me about my comparison, so i was still promoting it lol.


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28 Jan 2012, 7:03 pm

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but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.


Something you aren't able to grab here.

You might not interested to have sex with something just because he has a 6-packs, but if you get excited just by looking at it then yes, it's a preference = an advantage for the guy.

If it wasn't a common preference for women then the 6-packs thing wouldn't be that popular in the media and guys wouldn't eat s**t stuff and starve to get them.



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28 Jan 2012, 7:03 pm

emlion wrote:
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Did anyone see that side-by-side J. Lo. picture that was floating around in another thread here? Pretty much everyone (at least the impression I got) agreed that the made up side was gorgeous, alluring, sexy. And she had a *metric buttload* of makeup on in that picture. The other side, without makeup, she just looked normal. Tired and middle-aged, maybe. You'd never, ever notice her in a million years. Maybe that's what's being said about heavy makeup being attention-getting?

hallelujah, yes.


i think when i think of 'heavy' makeup i think of awfully applied transvestite/crossdresser parodies as opposed to skillfully applied heavy makeup.
maybe that's sort of what people are thinking?

quite possibly. men might have a different definition of heavy.

i've seen men react positively when it is applied like this, for example:
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28 Jan 2012, 7:05 pm

Canadian men certainly have a poor taste in makeup then.



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28 Jan 2012, 7:05 pm

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but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.


Something you aren't able to grab here.

You might not interested to have sex with something just because he has a 6-packs, but if you get excited just by looking at it then yes, it's a preference.

If it wasn't a common preference for women then the 6-packs thing wouldn't be that popular in the media and guys wouldn't eat sh** stuff and starve to get them.

i think you're possibly misunderstanding what a preference is. if i reflexively salivate at the sight of buttery shrimp but i don't like it and don't want to eat it, it's not a preference.


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28 Jan 2012, 7:06 pm

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but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.


Something you aren't able to grab here.

You might not interested to have sex with something just because he has a 6-packs, but if you get excited just by looking at it then yes, it's a preference.

If it wasn't a common preference for women then the 6-packs thing wouldn't be that popular in the media and guys wouldn't eat sh** stuff and starve to get them.

i think you're possibly misunderstanding what a preference is. if i reflexively salivate at the sight of buttery shrimp but i don't like it and don't want to eat it, it's not a preference.



hahahaha

You're not making any sense here.

One wouldn't salivate on a dish that he/she hates.

"The eye eats before the mouth" as some local proverb says.



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28 Jan 2012, 7:07 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.


Something you aren't able to grab here.

You might not interested to have sex with something just because he has a 6-packs, but if you get excited just by looking at it then yes, it's a preference.

If it wasn't a common preference for women then the 6-packs thing wouldn't be that popular in the media and guys wouldn't eat sh** stuff and starve to get them.

i think you're possibly misunderstanding what a preference is. if i reflexively salivate at the sight of buttery shrimp but i don't like it and don't want to eat it, it's not a preference.



hahahaha

You're not making any sense here.

One wouldn't salivate on a meal that he/she hates.

"The eye eats before the mouth" as some local proverb says.

i don't like the taste of shrimp (am also allergic) yet if i see a commercial showing steamy hot shrimp in butter sauce, i will salivate.


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28 Jan 2012, 7:08 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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but it isn't true. we may have instantaneous reactions to things but that does not mean they are ideal to us. we may have no interest in dating or having sex with someone with 6-pack abs, but we could still notice them.


Something you aren't able to grab here.

You might not interested to have sex with something just because he has a 6-packs, but if you get excited just by looking at it then yes, it's a preference.

If it wasn't a common preference for women then the 6-packs thing wouldn't be that popular in the media and guys wouldn't eat sh** stuff and starve to get them.

i think you're possibly misunderstanding what a preference is. if i reflexively salivate at the sight of buttery shrimp but i don't like it and don't want to eat it, it's not a preference.



hahahaha

You're not making any sense here.

One wouldn't salivate on a meal that he/she hates.

"The eye eats before the mouth" as some local proverb says.

i don't like the taste of shrimp (am also allergic) yet if i see a commercial showing steamy hot shrimp in butter sauce, i will salivate.


That's probably because you like the butter sauce, not the shrimp.



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28 Jan 2012, 7:10 pm

that's getting silly. remove the butter sauce. show steaming shrimp, freshly cooked and i will salivate. i am not sure why you're having such difficulty with this concept. people have reflexive reactions all the time to things that they do not want to actually have.


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28 Jan 2012, 7:15 pm

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that's getting silly. remove the butter sauce. show steaming shrimp, freshly cooked and i will salivate. i am not sure why you're having such difficulty with this concept. people have reflexive reactions all the time to things that they do not want to actually have.


Such positive reflexive reactions on something mean that they would like to have it, even subconsciously.



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28 Jan 2012, 7:17 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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that's getting silly. remove the butter sauce. show steaming shrimp, freshly cooked and i will salivate. i am not sure why you're having such difficulty with this concept. people have reflexive reactions all the time to things that they do not want to actually have.


Such positive reflexive reactions on something mean that they would like to have it, even subconsciously.

no, it really wouldn't. for example, a man may see a scantily clad woman walk by and will reflexively check her out and may have a fleeting reaction, even if she is not the body type he prefers - simply because his instinct is to respond.


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28 Jan 2012, 7:21 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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that's getting silly. remove the butter sauce. show steaming shrimp, freshly cooked and i will salivate. i am not sure why you're having such difficulty with this concept. people have reflexive reactions all the time to things that they do not want to actually have.


Such positive reflexive reactions on something mean that they would like to have it, even subconsciously.

no, it really wouldn't. for example, a man may see a scantily clad woman walk by and will reflexively check her out and may have a fleeting reaction, even if she is not the body type he prefers - simply because his instinct is to respond.


You really believe that?



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28 Jan 2012, 7:22 pm

I do. I can appreciate a well put-together man, but that doesn't give him *any* sexual advantage with me. YMMV, of course.