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22 Mar 2012, 6:16 pm

Why are there so many people like Condell and Tequila around these days? Why are there so many people who go on and on about Islam, but who insist that race means nothing to them, and who proudly declare their love for Israel, even though they are not jewish? Whose interests are they really serving? Where do these memes come from?

Well, consider the English Defence League. It was originally formed in England as a protest by some young, working class Englishmen sickened by the sight of British Muslims protesting against British soldiers who had just returned from the war in Afghanistan.

Within a few years the English Defence League had grown into a sizeable group, prone to marching around with an Israeli flag and proudly proclaiming that race meant nothing to them.

Here is a video of one of their spiritual leaders letting out a freudian slip.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEmluOJvWE[/youtube]

Strange that an American rabbi should have the time, money and inclination to come over to Britain and lecture working-class British Whites about what to think. Sounds like something from a conspiracy theory, doesn't it?



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22 Mar 2012, 6:17 pm

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A know a good bit of christians that do not eat pork and jews too.


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I'm also talking about the freedom to not have religious measures or laws imposed on non-observant people without their knowledge or consent.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:18 pm

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Why are there so many people like Condell and Tequila around these days? Why are there so many people who go on and on about Islam, but who insist that race means nothing to them, and who proudly declare their love for Israel, even though they are not jewish? Whose interests are they really serving? Where do these memes come from?

Well, consider the English Defence League. It was originally formed in England as a protest by some young, working class Englishmen sickened by the sight of British Muslims protesting against British soldiers who had just returned from the war in Afghanistan.

Within a few years the English Defence League had grown into a sizeable group, prone to marching around with an Israeli flag and proudly proclaiming that race meant nothing to them.

Here is a video of one of their spiritual leaders letting out a freudian slip.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEmluOJvWE[/youtube]

Strange that an American rabbi should have the time, money and inclination to come over to Britain and lecture working-class British Whites about what to think. Sounds like something from a conspiracy theory, doesn't it?


Religion and race go hand and hand with each other it was long believed that to follow judisam one must be jewish to be muslim one must be arabic to be christian one must be white I dont get it though and yes it does sound like a conspiracy theory.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:26 pm

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Why are there so many people like Condell and Tequila around these days? Why are there so many people who go on and on about Islam, but who insist that race means nothing to them, and who proudly declare their love for Israel, even though they are not jewish? Whose interests are they really serving? Where do these memes come from?


Because race doesn't really matter to us - freedom from authoritarianism and religious dogma does. In any form. If people are willing to integrate and we have the space, I don't see why we shouldn't let people in if they benefit the country.

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Here is a video of one of their spiritual leaders letting out a freudian slip.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFEmluOJvWE[/youtube]


That guy is quite funny. It's just a slip-up though, no need to go into overdrive. People make mistakes sometimes.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:44 pm

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Why are there so many people like Condell and Tequila around these days? Why are there so many people who go on and on about Islam, but who insist that race means nothing to them, and who proudly declare their love for Israel, even though they are not jewish? Whose interests are they really serving? Where do these memes come from?


Because race doesn't really matter to us - freedom from authoritarianism and religious dogma does. In any form. If people are willing to integrate and we have the space, I don't see why we shouldn't let people in if they benefit the country.



Why should the Anglo-Celtic natives of Britain care if Britain's population 200 years from now are "free from authoritarianism" if that population is a different people? If Britain's population 200 years from now is comprised entirely of Africans, Asians and half-castes, why should any Anglo-Celt in Britain today care what sort of sociopolitical system they adopt any more than they care about what sort of sociopolitical system Africans, Asians and half-castes adopt in the present day in Nigeria, Pakistan or Peru?

I'm starting to think liberalism is preferable to conservatism. At least people don't mistake liberals for patriots.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:46 pm

I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
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22 Mar 2012, 6:49 pm

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I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
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As a fellow Aryan I will say that the original aryans where not white.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:52 pm

Joker wrote:
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I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
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As a fellow Aryan I will say that the original aryans where not white.


That was used only as an example.



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22 Mar 2012, 6:58 pm

Raptor wrote:
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I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
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As a fellow Aryan I will say that the original aryans where not white.


That was used only as an example.


Oh cool :wink: and it was a good one their is a lot of fallacy from the left wingers.



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22 Mar 2012, 7:00 pm

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Why should the Anglo-Celtic natives of Britain care if Britain's population 200 years from now are "free from authoritarianism" if that population is a different people?


It is called being progressive. I would like to leave the country in a better state for my children than was left for me. That has been the basic social contract between the government and the people for the last few centuries.

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If Britain's population 200 years from now is comprised entirely of Africans, Asians and half-castes, why should any Anglo-Celt in Britain today care what sort of sociopolitical system they adopt any more than they care about what sort of sociopolitical system Africans, Asians and half-castes adopt in the present day in Nigeria, Pakistan or Peru?


Well worded like that, why would anybody care about being the victim of ethnic cleansing?

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I'm starting to think liberalism is preferable to conservatism. At least people don't mistake liberals for patriots.


I am a left wing liberal, just not a blind, zealot idiot.



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22 Mar 2012, 10:53 pm

Joker wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Joker wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
:roll:


As a fellow Aryan I will say that the original aryans where not white.


That was used only as an example.


Oh cool :wink: and it was a good one their is a lot of fallacy from the left wingers.


Not all lefties feel this way... some criticize and work against intolerance in any form it shows itself...including a religion of intolerance.

The other weird thing you did here was equate ethnicity with religion. They are very different concepts. So that was the fallacy...


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22 Mar 2012, 11:04 pm

NarcissusSavage wrote:
Joker wrote:
Raptor wrote:
Joker wrote:
Raptor wrote:
I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
:roll:


As a fellow Aryan I will say that the original aryans where not white.


That was used only as an example.


Oh cool :wink: and it was a good one their is a lot of fallacy from the left wingers.


Not all lefties feel this way... some criticize and work against intolerance in any form it shows itself...including a religion of intolerance.

The other weird thing you did here was equate ethnicity with religion. They are very different concepts. So that was the fallacy...


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23 Mar 2012, 10:29 am

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I find it disturbingly amusing that the left, who attacks anything they consider even loosely intolerant, is so protective of Islam which is anything but tolerant.
By that logic they should also obviously be protective of the Aryan Nations, right?
:roll:


Of course. To the extent that the Aryan Nation and its members observe public law, I am content to see them free to espouse whatever inanities they choose.

When behaviour crosses the line of criminality, the individuals perpetrating that behaviour are properly subject to enforcement of the criminal law. When an organization advocates that its members and others break the law, it puts itself in similar jeopardy.

Are there Islamic terrorists? Yes. Are their Imams exhorting their followers to violence? Yes. But Islam, writ large, is not merely its followers and a fraction of its clergy.


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23 Mar 2012, 12:27 pm

Tequila wrote:
Joker wrote:
A know a good bit of christians that do not eat pork and jews too.


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I'm also talking about the freedom to not have religious measures or laws imposed on non-observant people without their knowledge or consent.


That plate sure looks good.

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23 Mar 2012, 12:30 pm

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That plate sure looks good.


Including the ham?



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23 Mar 2012, 12:35 pm

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That plate sure looks good.


Including the ham?


Teq, that almost looks like a European diet, you thinking of going continental?

Where are the chips you usually post, keep eating that and you will get banned from UKIP. :wink: