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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:55 pm Post subject:
Jesus was a Republican. He voted for Reagan. _________________ Plus Alpha-Atheistic anti-theist
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:00 pm Post subject:
Awesomelyglorious wrote:
Jesus was a Republican. He voted for Reagan.
Jesus Sanchez? _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
Does it really matter what Jesus wanted? By god America is a messed up country. No where else in the Western world would you see debate of public policy be influenced by scripture.
While Israel is not Western in its location, it is Western in its values. And Scripture profoundly influences their policies, besides giving them a Divine land grant to the place.
Western Values do not involve scripture working to sanction slaughter and repression, let alone governance. A "Divine Land Grant" is utterly worthless. I have a Divine Land Grant from Cthulhu to your backyard, so move out or there will be trouble
All hail Great Cthulhu! Long may his tentacles ooze!
Hopefully, we his worshipers will be eaten first!
Definitely not, at least if you ask Jehova Witnesses. What was it called, the Council of 144,000 or something?
Well, seeing as how the 144,000 are divided into 12 in the Bible, allocating 12,000 Jews from each of the 12 tribes, by Hebrew tribe name -- I don't think Wacko Jacko's childhood religion is correct.
Rev 7:4-8:
Quote:
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
_________________ Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject:
If everything needed is supplied in a regenerating form (fruit trees for example, or Godtronic replicators), is there a need for democracy or government in general?
If all your desires are fulfilled, what cause might there be for conflict or disagreement?
lol American Christianity is one weird religion.
Jesus would advocate staying away from earthly matters like government to concentrate on spiritual ascencion.
And the kingdo of god is an abstract concept, not a government. _________________ ...and his prowess on the battlefield is surpassed only by his skill in the bed chamber.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:07 am Post subject:
Subotai wrote:
And the kingdo of god is an abstract concept, not a government.
ur an abstract ohhhh _________________ Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
lol American Christianity is one weird religion.
Jesus would advocate staying away from earthly matters like government to concentrate on spiritual ascencion.
And the kingdo of god is an abstract concept, not a government.
I would agree.
But by American Christianity, do you mean American evangelicals, or does that include us all?
lol American Christianity is one weird religion.
Jesus would advocate staying away from earthly matters like government to concentrate on spiritual ascension.
And the kingdom of god is an abstract concept, not a government.
I would agree.
But by American Christianity, do you mean American evangelicals, or does that include us all?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I think Christianity is intended to be looked at esoterically and what we have now currently accepted as Christianity is much different than the original religion.
But yeah, I am mainly thinking of Evangelicals, Baptists, and the like. Although as someone who is not Christian I still find the beliefs of other denominations a little strange. _________________ ...and his prowess on the battlefield is surpassed only by his skill in the bed chamber.
Maybe he wanted a small local government but large universal one.
So, God a federalist? ...anti state's rights?
He sounds like a reasonable Super-Being.
If the world was under one government, it would still be small and local compared to God's universal rule...as long as you believed in him.
"If the world was under one government"? Wait for it.
Quote:
...and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
...And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.... It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name... Let the person who has insight calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man. That number is 666.
(Rev 13:4, 7-8, 16-18)
I'm sure we will live under one eventually, I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. _________________ *some atheist walks outside and picks up stick*
lol American Christianity is one weird religion.
Jesus would advocate staying away from earthly matters like government to concentrate on spiritual ascension.
And the kingdom of god is an abstract concept, not a government.
I would agree.
But by American Christianity, do you mean American evangelicals, or does that include us all?
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
I think Christianity is intended to be looked at esoterically and what we have now currently accepted as Christianity is much different than the original religion.
But yeah, I am mainly thinking of Evangelicals, Baptists, and the like. Although as someone who is not Christian I still find the beliefs of other denominations a little strange.
Joined: Sep 22, 2008 Age: 76 Posts: 29309 Location: New Jersey
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:56 pm Post subject:
Ragtime wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Definitely not, at least if you ask Jehova Witnesses. What was it called, the Council of 144,000 or something?
Well, seeing as how the 144,000 are divided into 12 in the Bible, allocating 12,000 Jews from each of the 12 tribes, by Hebrew tribe name -- I don't think Wacko Jacko's childhood religion is correct.
Rev 7:4-8:
Quote:
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.
5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,
from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,
from the tribe of Gad 12,000,
6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,
from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,
from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,
7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,
from the tribe of Levi 12,000,
from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,
8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,
from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,
from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.
Considering there are 7 billion of us and at least 4 billion who have died in previous eras it does not look very promising.
I don't think that this is the result of a tendency to view everything, including politics, through the eyes of religion. Rather, it's the opposite. It's the result of a tendency to view everything, including religion, through the eyes of politics. It seems that everything has a "liberal" and a "conservative" flavour, especially in the US. There are liberal churches and conservative churches, liberal judges and conservative judges, liberal movies and conservative movies... and so we shouldn't be surprised to find that there are now two Jesuses.
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:26 pm Post subject:
Declension wrote:
I don't think that this is the result of a tendency to view everything, including politics, through the eyes of religion. Rather, it's the opposite. It's the result of a tendency to view everything, including religion, through the eyes of politics. It seems that everything has a "liberal" and a "conservative" flavour, especially in the US. There are liberal churches and conservative churches, liberal judges and conservative judges, liberal movies and conservative movies... and so we shouldn't be surprised to find that there are now two Jesuses.
Do you mean like that Star Trek episode where Kirk is split in two?
