Aspergers and above average IQ

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I took two IQ tests when I was in school but I don't remember what the exact score (down to numbers) but I was above average.
I'm 31, now in school for a second bachelor's and my GPA is 3.9.
I speak two languages fluently, and know a little Italian.
I suppose that explains the level of my intelligence is.

My IQ is almost as high as my catatar's. My mother wants me to be a cat, not a bunny, because she thinks that cats are smarter than bunnies. I like to lick lollipops and rub them all over my face.

First IQ test I had done by a psychologist when I was 14. It came back at 125. Above average, I guess.

Second IQ test I had I was 21 and I on a massive quantity of antipsychotic medications that were severely affecting my cognitive functioning. I could barely do anything, my short-term memory was shot. I'd been having seizures for 7 years, but the antipsychotics had made the seizures much more frequent and I was in a really bad mental space. Severe anxiety and depression, constant preoccupation. Surprisingly, I scored 125 again. I'd like to think that now I'm off the psychotropic drugs, I'd do better if they tested me again, but they've put me on anti-convulsants now, and they're affecting my cognitive functioning in other ways. This medication business is a no-win situation. (Interestingly, I was put on the antipsychotic medication, thus exacerbating the seizures, because they thought the seizures were psychological in nature. All I can say is some doctors are utterly useless.)

I, too, have heard that people with Asperger's often have an above average IQ. Doesn't mean we're any better in social situations. Just because we're technically smarter doesn't mean we can always apply it where we need it.

I actually had my IQ tested by MENSA when I was fifteen or sixteen. I score 159. My Sister, who is NT, came out as 138.

I remember taking an IQ test when I was about 8 years old and I scored 113. I have had this interest in nuclear science since I was 9 however and I'm currently 19 and I'm taking my first doctoral level class in plasma physics. I personally believe that IQ tests are a fairly invalid measure of intelligence in that the nature of intelligence is being restrained to a few concepts that are approved by our society and the dominant culture. I also learned that my parents had suspected that I was dyslexic and I was recently diagnosed with ADHD. I was never diagnosed with aspergers though. My ability however is tinkering, I have been able to build plasma sources out of propane bottles as well as sight glasses. Interestingly enough in addition to aspergers *which I believe helps me facilitate connections to seemingly remote subjects by looking at underlying trends which are often ignored by the great majority of the population" I have also been diagnosed as having bi-polar disorder.

The diagnostic criteria for Aspergers is an IQ above 70. Statistically by excluding people on the lower end of a scale for Asperger diagnosis the average intelligence of Aspies will be above the average of the general population. Psychologists acting on the stereotype that only people with above average intelligence can have aspergers may not diagnose people with average intelligence. People with average intelligence and all the problems of aspergers are probably less likely to have the wherewithal and the means to get to a specialist then those with above average intelligence.

Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 23 Feb 2014, 3:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The people that measured my I.Q. (I had it tested when I had my meltdown a year ago) wouldn't tell it to me because they didn't think it would help me with my meltdown issues. When I persisted, they told me it was the highest they ever recorded over the 25 years their organization has been in existence. Moreover, this institution was established to do psychological assessments and cognitive diagnostics for non-intellectually challenged people. Hmmm. I guess that explains why I was doing calculus when I was 3 months old, to figure the rate of change in production of my mother's breast milk.

Actually, if I'm really that smart (and if all of you are that smart), then let's face it: the world is in big trouble. Because I trip over coffee tables and forget why I went from point A to point B.

Meanwhile, you have Joe Biden in the Vice Presidency, John Boehner as Speaker of the House, Representative Sheila Jackson Lee who thinks the astronauts planted a flag on Mars, and a Congress that has never actually read through Obamacare.

My high I.Q. says we're doomed.

And that is a very high I.Q. I hope you will major in nuclear physics to invent a bomb that will destroy only the bad people. When you do, call me, and I'll push the button.

True. Some diagnostic centers would disagree (or would have disagreed in the past before DSM 5 came out) due to the well-known diagnostic confuse within the autism spectrum, the very reason it has been merged into a single ASD diagnosis. Nevertheless, the majority of them would have specified the above IQ limit for an AS diagnosis (>70). Below that they had two options: autism and PDD-NOS (apart from fragile-X, Rett's syndrome, and other rare diagnoses).

The diagnostic criteria of Asperger's in the DSM-IV says:



Actually, I happen to know two persons IRL with AS diagnosis with IQs (as measured by a diagnostic center) only slightly above 70, and here I am with an IQ score in the superior range and yet my diagnosis is the marginally known PDD-NOS.

Intelligence is much more than IQ scores. Even if we included EQ as measured by scientifically approved tests - and I can tell by experience how emulating all those complex functions in everyday life taxes my ability to function - we'd very likely miss out on identifying brain powers, let alone measuring them.

(I don't like IQ elitism, anyway.)

New member here (NT, or so I'm told)...arrived @ this site in the course of research/info gathering. I'm going to start hanging out here more - you guys are hysterical - seriously. I almost experienced terminal bladder malfunction after reading a couple of these posts (Firebird's and the oooOOOooooOOOOoooo guy, among others). Some of you missed your calling - you should put pen to page, don the sunglasses, and embark on the standup comedy circuits - and that is sincerely meant . I've laughed more in the last 20 min than I can remember...I look forward to making new friends here! Peace out & best wishes for a great week for all...just call me 'Lefty'

Hi!

Hi yourself, JSBACHlover . Thank you for the warm welcome, & hope your day was great - (Beethoven lover here, but please don't hold that against me! lol). I love all types of classical music (pianist)...Bach, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Vivaldi, etc., etc., do you play an instrument?

Hello,

I was just wondering after reading this, is it actually possible that NT's are actually just "underexcitable?" I was thinking about this and I'm not sure why the term would go this way. It seems to me that we would want to give the negative connotation to those who under-perform?

Umm, I think he just presented proof, it's just harder to understand because of the intellectual words.

But anyway. It is often agreed upon that the average aspie is more intelligent than the average NT. But this intelligence is not universal. One example of the areas we are less intelligent in is social learning. I myself have met Aspies who seem to be less intelligent than others. But we must also remember that IQ is general. We, as aspies, have a tendency to obsess over highly specific subjects. This implies that, in those areas we are more intelligent.

Personally I have found no proof to this claim. I have noticed that I am more intelligent than most of the people in my class, but this may just be that I am more intellectually inclined, in that I favour the more intellectual side of things.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: people with Aspergers (due to what I have seen and researched) are generally more intelligent that the average NT. But there are exceptions, as one Aspie might also have an intellectual disability, or perhaps a brain injury.

I can also assure you that I'm not just saying these things, I have researched this matter and I used logic to come to these conclusions.

PS
I do admire your quest for proof though javascript:emoticon(':D')

Also I agree with this guy ^^^ he is smartish

Hey leftie. Not having a go at you or anything, but some people could find that a bit offensive. You see, we aspies are very different from NTs and what we have been talking about is actually quite normal. Many of us our bullied because they find how we work amusing, also because we're simply different.

But I do recognise your point of view (My current aspie obsession is aspie and NT interactions). We do seem very weird and sometimes comical, but just be careful when you say that because it can hurt people.

May your works be fruitful Leftie, Cya.