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09 Jul 2017, 12:45 pm

If the afterlife exists would we still be weird?

What you are really asking is will you still be rejected by your peers and have to eat by yourself in the school cafeteria in the afterlife.

If its heaven, then god will somehow magically make it so you're popular in the afterlife.

And if you're sent to hell then God...will do the same thing. But make your wish for acceptance and popularity come true in some hideous way (like in the story of "the Monkey's Paw"). :lol: Like you get stampeded to death by crazed fans and groupies every hour, on the hour, for all eternity in a never ending macabre spoof of the Beatles in a Hard Days Night.



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09 Jul 2017, 12:58 pm

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Provided there is an afterlife and we can make it into heaven with all the NTs, do you think we will still be oddities to them?


There is no "afterlife," because there is no "after." Study physics - time is a dimension of our material universe. Outside this world, time does not exist. So the whole notion of something occurring "after" you leave this universe is non-sequitur. You will never leave, because "you" were never here. It's an illusion. A dream, all happening in an instant.

You'll understand, once your character expires, and you withdraw from the RPG. And no, you won't have autism, because that's just part of your character. In the reality outside this world, EVERYBODY is hypersensitive to stimuli. It's not a 'disorder' there. :D Beings of pure light and energy grok everything.


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09 Jul 2017, 8:35 pm

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I tend to believe the different sorts of people will be "walled off" from one another, to prevent friction.


Walled off, or just have altered perceptions? The angry homophobe won't notice or perceive queer couples. Great-granddad who passed away in the 1920s won't notice all his mixed descendants and they won't notice or perceive when he says things that might slander them, so-on, so-forth, until you could puke.

yes, a virtual wall caused by each party being at a different frequency that, like radios, can tune into one station at a time. so the bigot station will not be received by the LGBT receiver.



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11 Jul 2017, 12:25 am

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Scripture, the actual physical bibles, are changing, and we must lean on Jesus in these final hours. Having to do with what the after life will be like, this is one of the scriptures that has been changed, but this is what it originally said about what it will be like in the millennium with the new heaven and earth.

And then the lion shall lay down with the lamb and the bear shall eat grass like the ox and a child shall play on the hole of the asp and nothing shall harm nor destroy in all My holy mountain. Isaiah 11:6


Ah yes, the "Mandela Effect". This specific example is often mentioned by people who really believe the Bible to be undergoing some kind of metamorphosis, that the words are literally changing from what they should be to something else. The wolf shall lay down with the lamb; it was never "lion". I don't recall it ever being a lion, although lions within that particular passage are mentioned in the next line. I think it's just been a simple case of confusion, not parallel universes converging which, believe it or not, some people actually believe (and they blame those dastardly scientists at CERN for it).

These people are actually serious about the spelling of the word 'dilemma':

http://www.dilemna.info/



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11 Jul 2017, 12:41 am

will@rd wrote:
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Provided there is an afterlife and we can make it into heaven with all the NTs, do you think we will still be oddities to them?


There is no "afterlife," because there is no "after." Study physics - time is a dimension of our material universe. Outside this world, time does not exist. So the whole notion of something occurring "after" you leave this universe is non-sequitur. You will never leave, because "you" were never here. It's an illusion. A dream, all happening in an instant.

You'll understand, once your character expires, and you withdraw from the RPG. And no, you won't have autism, because that's just part of your character. In the reality outside this world, EVERYBODY is hypersensitive to stimuli. It's not a 'disorder' there. :D Beings of pure light and energy grok everything.


I was never here? I'm just an illusion? If who we are is simply illusory, then who is it that is being fooled? Presumably no one, but if that's the case then we can't call it an illusion (or, more accurately, delusion). Illusions and delusions, in order for them to occur, require the existence of a sentient entity to be deceived in the first place.

As for the impossibility of there being an afterlife, well, you're just wrong about the physics part. I actually have studied physics (I'm not a physicist though), and as far as I can tell there is nothing within it that specifically rules out the possibility. The subject is, in any case, one for philosophy and not physics, because physics (like all the other sciences, like chemistry) deal only with physical reality, and do not take into account explanations for things that cannot be measured, weighed, categorised, and accounted for via the naturalistic paradigm. Materialism is the underlying "philosophical prejudice" (as D. B. Hart put it) that is simply assumed, taken as being axiomatic, and therefore never called into question. The afterlife falls outside of this.



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11 Jul 2017, 1:30 am

i am not going to quote anyone, but what i am going to say is related generally on the sentiments expressed in this thread.

the thing that perplexes me is the existence of consciousness.

one must remember that one is only conscious of what is inside their brain.
we think we see the world outside, but really, what we see is the sensory input as interpreted by our brains.

the eyes do not see. they facilitate "seeing".
they send impulses to the occipital lobe that then is harvested by reasoning from the frontal lobes.

we do not feel our bodies. we feel the nerve impulses that the body sends to the areas in the brain that interpret them.

same is the case for all sensation.

when you think about the fact that our brains are in complete darkness always (inside the skull), then it unnerving to realize that the world full of light that i perceive is conceived in darkness.

in that way , all that i sense is a translation rather than a raw connection.

so consciousness is the thing that "sees" in the most essential sense.

what is consciousness?

it is a triad of dimensions of the universe.

there are 11 dimensions as far as i can determine.

they are broken into 3 phases that each share one dimension with the nest phase.

so, there is the physical dimension which is 0=point, 1=line,2=plane and 3= volume.

then there is the energy dimension

0=is instant of time (containing infinite space (or level 3 of the first phase)), 1 is line of time and 2 is plane of time and 3 is volume of time.

we are generally in the first dimension of the second phase of reality which is the line of time where one thing occurs after the previous thing and before the next thing.

then there is the consciousness phase.
0= point of consciousness, 1 is a line of consciousness and 2 is a plane of consciousness and 3 is a volume of consciousness.

i am not going to explain all these things because this is simply a summary.

there is then the phenomena of energy, which is the realm of God. infinite energy infused into the dimensional systems i spoke about is the work of God.

energy creates matter (in space) which creates evolution which creates time which creates "manifestation" which creates consciousness.



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24 Jul 2017, 2:12 am

I still sometimes wonder if the Soul is the Mind, or something else. Like maybe at death, the Soul is unburdened from the body as well as the psychological baggage of the Mind and is only pure consciousness with only a small trace of the person it once animated.



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24 Jul 2017, 10:05 am

VIDEODROME wrote:
I still sometimes wonder if the Soul is the Mind, or something else. Like maybe at death, the Soul is unburdened from the body as well as the psychological baggage of the Mind and is only pure consciousness with only a small trace of the person it once animated.

IMHO you're on the right track. :study:



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24 Jul 2017, 10:41 am

I wouldn't mind being "weird" in the Afterlife.

The "weird ones" might be the ones who are more quickly "assigned" to be a person's soul.



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24 Jul 2017, 12:48 pm

us weirdos oughta stick together :alien: :alien:



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24 Jul 2017, 12:51 pm

Yep...we have to!! !! :ninja:



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24 Jul 2017, 1:05 pm

Weirdos unite! :bounce:



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24 Jul 2017, 1:33 pm

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24 Jul 2017, 4:10 pm

I Hope so... '''Normal'' Is far too over rated! lol



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24 Jul 2017, 8:43 pm

Normal is a city in Illinois.



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24 Jul 2017, 9:31 pm

auntblabby wrote:
Normal is a city in Illinois.


And I live a couple of thousand miles away from it 8)