Will we be weird in the afterlife?

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I'm really starting to wonder if about all we can hope for is some type of benevolent AI dictatorship - ie. something to force our hand in not making permutations of the same mistakes forever. As far as I can tell we're too messed up go to govern ourselves until things get so bad for so long that aiming for the relative ease (that we're currently bored of) and even being willing to lay down one's life for it comes back in style. The rise and fall of civilizations and each civilization's inability to survive the detrimental effects of prosperity is as insidious and nasty as a read of the biblical book of Judges.

until the last soul grinds down his/her karmic wheel to dust, there is more work to be done, more incarnations or guardian angel work to sweat. history may not exactly repeat itself, but it surely rhymes, and there's a reason for that. it is important that these lessons continue until every soul learns what is needed.

Outside of the few odd cases where someone knowingly and deliberately does wrong I'm not even sure I understand the concept of karma anymore, nor do I see any particular traits in people who are so-called psychics or natural astral projectors that tells me they're any more evolved than anyone else. That seems to be the rub - ie. on all terrestrial fronts this stuff seems to have next to nothing for correlation with personal depth, insight, or integrity.

danion brinkly said that when god chose him, god scraped the bottom of the barrel. but that goes to show it doesn't matter which human has the gifts, it is the gifts that matter and not the human, the human is just the vehicle to carry the gifts.

I don't know what to make of Danion.

What I do know - Jacob Boehme said one thing, Emmanuel Swedenborg said another, Martinez De Pasqualle said another, Louis-Claude De Saint-Martin said another, Fabre D' Olivet said another, Saint-Yves d'Alveydre said another, Rudolph Steiner said another, Max Hiendel said another, Madame Blavatsky said another, AP Sinnett said another, Alice Bailey said another, Dion Fortune said another, Aleister Crowley said another, Franz Bardon said something slightly different, Robert Bruce says something slightly different, and about the closest I see in good current correlation are guys like Nick Farrell, John Michael Greer, and perhaps my favorite and perhaps most pragmatic of the current writers and practitioners of these things - Mark Stavish. It seems like congruity has come with saturation and there's something that doesn't quite sit with this being just one narrative.

I still have to debate whether anything I see in a vivid inner vision is objectively real. I do believe, without any hesitation, that it's interior regurgitation of some type but it's tough to place it - ie. whether it's something from my reptilian or mammal brain, when I do see something with my eyes closed how much correlation it has to what kind of reality, etc.. I've had to come to accept that if I'm in a social situation and feel a presence brush with me that it's other people around me reacting to something I'm doing or did - even if they aren't directly seeing me, ie. there's some kind of subconscious filament that interacts with other people and spreads beyond the human body. Past that - dream visions can seem to deliver a plot but I'm still awaiting any concrete evidence that there anything other than my deeper mind attempting do voice its deepest desires.

As far as people having near death experiences - ie. seeing bardo (as Manly P Hall often chose the terminology) and which I think he quite fittingly described in Lectures on Ancient Philosophy as a mindless shifting back and forth between light and dark but really both in darkness and not going much of anywhere - or children having vivid past-life memories, yes I think there's evidence for that.

The challenge I'd have to give to someone like Danion Brinkley who'd assert that there's any kind of personal God that isn't us seeing a reflection of ourselves in the inner mirror - tell us something we don't know. I think the same could be said for any of the more dogmatic NDE experiencers who say yes, there's a personal God. from what I've seen that personal God tells us either things we already knew but couldn't do much with due to the realities of our lives or, on the flip, a person says that they beheld the truth of the whole universe, like Dostoevsky having a seizure halo, and when they came back they couldn't remember any of it.

Even if this is just the action of Aldus Huxley's reducing valve giving us the stingy drip of reality - just enough not to be eaten by predatory cats, bears, etc.. or walk into the spear-tip of an enemy, it says some very confusing things about the reality of a person God that can or will tell us much of anything that we don't know. While I appreciate the reports that people come back from NDE's with vastly changed perspectives, much improved health, and even enhanced degrees of psychic activity it seems like God is just as dubious and muddy a character as It was before their NDE and none of the explanations of what's happening by NDE'rs are particularly satisfying. I think my last brush with this, ie. reading Michael Newton as a prerequisite for a course, was particularly jarring in this regard because the idea seemed to be that heaven itself causes a lot of the forms of suffering that are here because people 'wanted' such experiences for spiritual growth. It makes me deeply question what moral obligations spiritual entities as such have for human beings, for example if we're souls possessing and puppeting animals are we in fact torturing animals for our own learning pleasure and our own psychodramas? Something seems more than a little twisted and questionable with that.

in previous lifetimes I was both male and female, rich and poor, white and dark-skinned. but [with the exception of the last lifetime] was not at all a good human being. I hope I have learned something before it's too late.

I don't think we do ourselves many favors with set and setting, for what's out there I'm not really sure we can either. If it's five steps forward it'll be four steps back, something of a mashup of our learning and opportunities taken on one hand and on the other the perversions of our environments (both voluntary and obligatory) taking us in the opposite direction.

While I consider that, overall, I've been a good person and tried to stay as learning-focused as I could I've also seen where this is mostly happenstance of luck. Born someone else, somewhere else with different nurture and nature, things would have been very different. Still not sure what to make of that.

mebbe take of it that each lifetime is a different curriculum with different tests. it's all earth school.

That goes right back full circle to the Great Work.

I was just watching this interview on Vice and I think it's a really good reminder that if human beings have an utter disregard for truth we may inherit that from the larger conscious system. This is someone who has many past-life memories, talks to spirits all day, and rather than solving any problems on earth she's completely full of BS. On one hand I don't mind her cashing in on how strange she looks, it's a hard/competitive world and if you have an angle you might as well use it. On the other I think her lack of ability to do much of anything substantive with her 'gifts' seems to show that most of what she's apparently in contact with is largely useless. I won't say that I haven't met and talked to quite a few people who haven't used this stuff to become better, sharper, etc.. - in the west a lot of the modern occultists have had that sort of Masonic self-development aim in their work.

Either way meet Valeria Lukyanova - most well-known as the Ukrainian Barbie and also perhaps another G. I. Gurdjieff in the making:

I feel like that often, like I must have been a really junk person in my last life. This one feels designed to force the lesson of humility on me.

to use a car analogy to describe my previous lifetimes, in this lifetime I might be akin to a '65 Rambler Ambassador, but in previous lifetimes I was a model A or T or even a bicycle.

In this life, we are imperfect due to the sin in the world and the sin in ourselves. Sin is the cause of all of our physical, mental, and spiritual imperfections.

In heaven, we will be made perfect again. There will be no physical disabilities, no mental disabilities, no autism, no fear, no hate. We will still be us, which may mean weird, but we will just be perfect versions of ourselves. Others will be perfect versions of themselves too. So they will not be the kind of person who judges, and we will not have anything imperfect to judge.

I tend to believe the different sorts of people will be "walled off" from one another, to prevent friction.

This will be my last post here. First, let me say I am so sorry for having said anything that might give anyone the wrong idea about God or His words or His Word Jesus Christ. It is given unto man once to die and then the judgment. Scripture, the actual physical bibles, are changing, and we must lean on Jesus in these final hours. Having to do with what the after life will be like, this is one of the scriptures that has been changed, but this is what it originally said about what it will be like in the millennium with the new heaven and earth.

And then the lion shall lay down with the lamb and the bear shall eat grass like the ox and a child shall play on the hole of the asp and nothing shall harm nor destroy in all My holy mountain. Isaiah 11:6

please don't leave us.

Walled off, or just have altered perceptions? The angry homophobe won't notice or perceive queer couples. Great-granddad who passed away in the 1920s won't notice all his mixed descendants and they won't notice or perceive when he says things that might slander them, so-on, so-forth, until you could puke.