politics driving young people from religion

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18 Jul 2014, 11:14 pm

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19 Jul 2014, 12:39 am

While I fancy myself a Christian, I find my politics increasingly clashing with those of my fellow church members, especially concerning my support of gay rights.


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19 Jul 2014, 3:16 am

Interesting article.

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To young adults, Campbell and Putnam write, "'religion' means 'Republican,' 'intolerant,' and 'homophobic.' Since those traits do not represent their views, they do not see themselves ? or wish to be seen by their peers ? as religious."


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19 Jul 2014, 3:21 am

Maybe this is an indication that extremism has its limits. Once the youth turn their backs on an ideology there is no place to go but the way of the dinosaur



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19 Jul 2014, 3:21 am

Logic makes most realize that religion is pointless, that compassion, empathy, love and sense of self worth can exist without it!


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19 Jul 2014, 8:47 am

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To young adults, Campbell and Putnam write, "'religion' means 'Republican,' 'intolerant,' and 'homophobic.' Since those traits do not represent their views, they do not see themselves ? or wish to be seen by their peers ? as religious."
In America as a present pattern of power in society that is the form most of your organised religion seems to take. But you still have Episcopal church liberals if you make the effort to look for them. Folks have to know enough about religion to realise there are more varieties of it than one dominant fundamentalism.

In Britain I have attended a gay wedding in a church, whose members overwhelmingly believe in evolution and critical thinking towards the Bible.



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19 Jul 2014, 4:54 pm

I'm wondering if this sort of thing tends to happen almost every generation. In the '20s there was the 'Flappers', in the '60s it was the Peace and Love generation, and in the '00s it's the Gay Rights generation.

They all start out as Liberal when young but seem to flip Conservative when older.

Plus a lot of these trends appear to be cyclical.


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19 Jul 2014, 5:31 pm

I don't know about that, I thought a lot of it was a lot of young people don't really see the point in following an organized religion...and want a more tangible explanation than 'God made the earth in 7 days', and have a hard time believing they will go to hell if they don't worship a certain god. I have no problem with spirituality or what spiritual beliefs people have.....but to me organized religion seems to have a tendency to become quite cultish and the organization/leadership of it can get very corrupt, and a lot of 'religious' people are complete hypocrites.

I mean even without conservatives, I still likely would not be following a monotheistic organized religion.


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19 Jul 2014, 6:14 pm

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I don't know about that, I thought a lot of it was a lot of young people don't really see the point in following an organized religion...and want a more tangible explanation than 'God made the earth in 7 days', and have a hard time believing they will go to hell if they don't worship a certain god. I have no problem with spirituality or what spiritual beliefs people have.....but to me organized religion seems to have a tendency to become quite cultish and the organization/leadership of it can get very corrupt, and a lot of 'religious' people are complete hypocrites.

I mean even without conservatives, I still likely would not be following a monotheistic organized religion.
Could be, but I'm betting that the addition of politics had the most to do with it. Politics turns off many Christians and not just undecided or nonreligious, I won't darken a church door because I associate it now with politics.

And most of the 'Republican' politics is concerned with sucking up to the rich, dismantling environmental laws because they interfere with big business profits (again, the rich) and trying in all of their efforts to repeal taxes that make the rich have to pay, so the rich can get even richer.

Most people say that another thing the Republicans have is stuff against gays, but I'm wondering if they haven't heard of the Log Cabin Republicans, who are composed almost entirely of gay liberal Republicans.

The fondness of the rich is what makes the Republican party look like gross hypocrites to me, they claim to be 'for the people' but they are anything but nowadays. Their common component just seems to be a massive hard-on for the rich.


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