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19 Dec 2019, 6:13 am

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The US government is entitled to every cent Edward Snowden earns from publishing his memoir, Permanent Record, a federal judge ruled on Tuesday. During his employment at the CIA and NSA, Snowden signed contracts promising to seek pre-clearance from those agencies before publishing any book or other publication containing classified materials. If he failed to do so, the contracts said, Snowden would forfeit any proceeds to the federal government.


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... dge-rules/


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26 Dec 2019, 8:05 pm

He needs to release it for free.


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28 Dec 2019, 3:24 pm

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" . . . He says he handed over all the documents he had to the journalists [Glenn Greenwald, Laura Poitras, Ewen MacAskill] in Hong Kong and no longer has any access to them. It was for the journalists to decide what was the story, he said. . . "

So, Edward didn't just make a decision all on his own what classified information to make public.

To make it clear, I support Edward.

This is information we as American citizens have a right to have. But, by going through journalists, he did it a better way. Just someone looking at the information fresh might decide, No, this endangers a particular person and isn't that central to the issue. And with the journalists being from a longstanding newspaper like the Guardian [UK], they have editors who are also going to look at, when do you go public (most of the time) vs. when do you hold back (rarely).

* and I fully acknowledge this is an idealized view of journalism!



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28 Dec 2019, 3:41 pm

He'll spend the money before they see any.


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28 Dec 2019, 3:52 pm

Clearly, Snowden breached his contract with his employer, thus entitling his (now former) employer to all profit and gain from the actions that breached the contract.

It doesn't matter how much you worship Snowden, he is not legally entitled to profit from his crimes.

Deal with it.


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28 Dec 2019, 6:02 pm

Fnord wrote:
Clearly, Snowden breached his contract with his employer, thus entitling his (now former) employer to all profit and gain from the actions that breached the contract.

It doesn't matter how much you worship Snowden, he is not legally entitled to profit from his crimes.

Deal with it.


I agree with you that he isn't legally entitled to profit.

That's why he should act with principle and just share the information without attempting to profit from it - at least, if he feels it's information that's of value to the public.


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29 Dec 2019, 11:44 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Clearly, Snowden breached his contract with his employer, thus entitling his (now former) employer to all profit and gain from the actions that breached the contract. It doesn't matter how much you worship Snowden, he is not legally entitled to profit from his crimes. Deal with it.
I agree with you that he isn't legally entitled to profit. That's why he should act with principle and just share the information without attempting to profit from it - at least, if he feels it's information that's of value to the public.
I have to wonder if he sought the book deal because his Russian handlers refused to meet his demands for payment — “Больше рублей или я пишу книгу!” (“Bol'she rubley ili ya pishu knigu!”) — “More rubles or I write book!”

:lol:


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29 Dec 2019, 2:41 pm

Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Clearly, Snowden breached his contract with his employer, thus entitling his (now former) employer to all profit and gain from the actions that breached the contract. It doesn't matter how much you worship Snowden, he is not legally entitled to profit from his crimes. Deal with it.
I agree with you that he isn't legally entitled to profit. That's why he should act with principle and just share the information without attempting to profit from it - at least, if he feels it's information that's of value to the public.
I have to wonder if he sought the book deal because his Russian handlers refused to meet his demands for payment — “Больше рублей или я пишу книгу!” (“Bol'she rubley ili ya pishu knigu!”) — “More rubles or I write book!”

:lol:


Wouldn't that just lead to news of Snowden having an accident, like falling out of a 5th story window onto a dozen bullets?


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30 Dec 2019, 11:22 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Clearly, Snowden breached his contract with his employer, thus entitling his (now former) employer to all profit and gain from the actions that breached the contract. It doesn't matter how much you worship Snowden, he is not legally entitled to profit from his crimes. Deal with it.
I agree with you that he isn't legally entitled to profit. That's why he should act with principle and just share the information without attempting to profit from it - at least, if he feels it's information that's of value to the public.
I have to wonder if he sought the book deal because his Russian handlers refused to meet his demands for payment — “Больше рублей или я пишу книгу!” (“Bol'she rubley ili ya pishu knigu!”) — “More rubles or I write book!”
Wouldn't that just lead to news of Snowden having an accident, like falling out of a 5th story window onto a dozen bullets?
A Russian coroner would declare it "Natural Causes" and have the body immediately cremated "for public health reasons".


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