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11 Aug 2023, 9:13 am

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High taxes are generally perceived as symptomatic of Socialism. In fact it's what most people think of, because they believe that in a Socialist country they'd be taxed into poverty, no matter how hard they work, but will be denied access to the entitlements promised by Socialism when they need them.


France's taxes are considered the highest in the world for a developed country and I know that we are talking about the "French exception" for many aspects of its political functioning.
These high taxes are actually the burden of the middle class and the poor despite the fact that the Government offers social programs. This facade is diluted by capitalist political lines.



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11 Aug 2023, 10:38 am

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Lunella wrote:
It's the government's fault making it absolutely horrendous for people to make a living and support themselves these days. They literally tax everything into the ground and give us awful service for everything, you can't even get a doctors appointment without kicking off and dentists here are thieves. People simply don't have the money/energy or resources for it.
That's Socialism for you!


Socialism is when the government does stuff, am I right?

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No, no I am not.


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17 Aug 2023, 6:53 am

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Last night was watching these podcasts done by Brett cooper reacting to different videos. One of which was a guy asking different members of different ages about the pros and cons of having kids and why many people in the states are having less kids.

I remember one woman who was 39 saying she still needed life sorted to think about that and Brett who is 21 said "What? You're 39 and you haven't yet sorted your life out!" Another was a guy who said I'll wait until 35 when I'm mature enough and Brett said "What 35? There were people fighting wars and having kids in their early 20s and you don't feel mature enough." I can't help but feel that people younger than me think they have got their lives all sorted already and berate others older than them because they maybe are struggling to sort their lives out later on in life. I can't stand the surprise sometimes that some people feel about other people because they didn't achieve goals or get their life together at the same time and age as them.

This is why I feel inadequate sometimes because I feel like I should be a parent by now which probably thought I would be when was 18 and didn't envisage that I would be here today still unmarried and no kids.



No idea who Brett Cooper is. This kind of culture wars, spectator sport, bear-baiting garbage is the reason I don't tune into podcasts in the first place. They are people who feel they have they lives all sorted out so they feel above anyone else that doesn't fit their mold. Most people who run podcasts and function as influencers generally have unpleasant and maladjusted personalities anyway. It's better not to feed their superiority complex.



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18 Aug 2023, 3:57 am

Never sort your life out or take longer than most people because of Asperger's/High Functioning Autism.



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19 Aug 2023, 1:46 pm

My parents got married at ~19/20 years old with a kid on the way. That wasn't abnormal then. That's extremely rare today.

My old next door neighbour bought his first house when he was 22 - but could have afforded to when he was 19. He's owned several properties and is now a retired multi-millionaire at 53.

I'm 40. Many other people my age own homes, have partners etc. Sometimes people talk about their kids' success in buying a house (kind of a big deal these days when a house is a couple Million dollars) and blah blah blah if they can do it anyone can.. and I just bite my tongue and don't really say anything because these people don't have any concept of what life, work, finances, and relationships are like when you're on the spectrum.

Sometimes it sucks to think about the things I haven't achieved that are "normal," but whatever it is what it is and I've achieved other things and have different goals, so the feelings pass as I focus my thoughts on Me and My capabilities and not other peoples' nor their goals etc and life goes on.


Some young people have it all figured out (good for them!) and others just think they do. They have no idea what factors may have contributed to someone else not meeting the same milestones they did "on time." No sense in arguing with them, just carry on knowing that those young people don't know Why some/many older people haven't achieved certain things so their comments aren't really relevant and should be mostly ignored.

Although, they do have a point about some things.. soldiers were 20, industrialists were 25-30 etc - in general people live longer now And take more time to reach various milestones compared to a few generations ago. But, young people do have a point that young people ARE capable of things and Can do them vs. put them off or not do them at all.


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19 Aug 2023, 2:28 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Socialism is when the government does stuff, am I right?

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No, no I am not.


No, and none of the countries on that list are truly socialistic. They are capitalistic with generous welfare programs. Socialism is when:
A. The government controls the means of production and runs a planned economy, like in North Korea and the former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries.
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B. the workers own the means of production, like what is seen in some CO-OP businesses.

Very few countries today meet the true definition of Socialism.



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19 Aug 2023, 3:51 pm

Brett Cooper appears to be little more than a lucky idiot.

A lot of internet influencer celebrity posturing is fake.

Don't use it as a benchmark for success.



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19 Aug 2023, 5:15 pm

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funeralxempire wrote:
Socialism is when the government does stuff, am I right?

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No, and none of the countries on that list are truly socialistic. They are capitalistic with generous welfare programs. Socialism is when:
A. The government controls the means of production and runs a planned economy, like in North Korea and the former Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact countries.
or
B. the workers own the means of production, like what is seen in some CO-OP businesses.

Very few countries today meet the true definition of Socialism.


Which list? :?

I was just mocking the idea that socialism is to blame for Lunella's complaints because ignorantly blaming socialism for one's struggles seems popular in some circles.


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19 Aug 2023, 5:58 pm

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That's Socialism for you!

You're wrong. Depending on one's definition of Socialism, one could argue with this list of European countries that are Socialist, however I'll go with it for now:
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I am not intimately familiar with all of these. I am quite familiar with Spain, having been there many times and having family friends there. I can tell you Spain has its share of problems but compared to the UK it's heaven on Earth.

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This list:



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19 Aug 2023, 5:59 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
I was just mocking the idea that socialism is to blame for Lunella's complaints because ignorantly blaming socialism for one's struggles seems popular in some circles.


I will agree with that. Of course a lot of circles blame capitalism for their own struggles also.



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20 Aug 2023, 5:53 am

Capitalism is all good. Socialism is all bad. The most evil regimes that have existed have been Socialists.



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20 Aug 2023, 8:01 am

I don't think capitalism is all good. It has some good but it also has some issues.


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21 Aug 2023, 1:21 am

As does every system.