Dumb people.

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I don't have a problem with mentally ret*d people. I don't have a problem with people who aren't that smart and know it. I don't hate people because they have low IQ's, and I can forgive ignorance on various occasions.

But by golly, there really are some dumb people out there. People who are too dumb to know they're dumb and every time they open their mouth they testify to how dumb they are.

Sometimes I just want to sit them down and teach them comprehension and critical thinking skills but they don't listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2RKb3VNAOo

I am related to a great many people like that. One of them is a teacher...

Which set of critical thinking skills with what type of comprehension incites your desire but results in frustration due to nobody needing taught cared to listen? Didn't Johnny Cash already sing "Nobody Cared, Nobody Cared", while Leonard Cohen later sang "Everybody Knows"? Care to check the grammar?

I've already posted: "One of my former preachers ended up on YouTube naked, chasing a masseuse. At least that one wasn't chasing me. With my career and epilepsy, I think Karma met Kafka. Me and the other Gods are in A Midsummer Night's Dream. 'Oh What Fools Those Mere Mortals Be!! !' The words "exorcise" and "exercise", and all the forms and tenses, are easily confused."

After researching in the University Library's neurological journals, I found the precurser theories similar to the Geschwind Syndrome across life-time temporal lobe epilepsy (and the "Seahorse Epilepsy" of the Limbic System with my Becker's Nevus), and, for then, I decided to regard my epilepsy more like visits to "A Midsummer Night's Dream" where I had laughed in Oberon's face, and declared that Oberon's powerful fairy dust and elixirs didn't scare me, in fact, I'm very immune and careless with them, besides, mushroom rings are much more fascinating, and he didn't kick me out of the enchanted forest, I was ignorant enough to escape to humanity on my own.

So now I'm another divine idiot amongst the more worldly iurodivyi (no mere mortal knows the aura of this word either).

Isn't "dumb" the wrong word?

Tadzio

Even Kanye would say that was amazing :p

No. I actually considered using the word "stupid" instead but I felt "stupid" was too general as I'm not speaking of individuals who just lack intelligence, but individuals who lack intelligence and shout it to the world while they cling to the notion that they aren't.

This is a variation of the definition of "dumb" as pertains to both lack of intelligence and deficit in speech, where the individual does not lack the actual ability to speak, but to speak in an intelligent manner due to actual lack of intelligence.

Thus the person is both stupid and dumb, while another individual may be stupid, but not dumb. The latter would generally be the individuals who know they're a little less than average intellectually and thus can frequently refrain from making fools of themselves in most instances.


And yes, I know this sounds petty and judgmental. But even I can take only so much "dumbness".

The offender, if you are wondering, is an individual who has attempted to debate with me but is failing horribly for no other reason except for the fact that they are dumb. I really do think this is the dumbest person I've ever come across online and that's a lofty title to hold!

Not because they have different views than mine, or because they are trolls, or "ret*ds" or stupid, or idiots. Not because they are uneducated. They are just plain dumb.

More dumb...or "dumber" if you will, than the man who once tried to impress my mother by boasting about how he caught a bunch of lobsters off the beach when we were on vacation once. Lobster fishing is illegal in that location and they have posted signs that say so.

What would you do if someone much smarter than you, said this about you?

I think dumbness is related to being totally sure to the point that nothing interrupts the infinity loop of sureness. It can be more or less complicated and the once who are really uncomplicated make me think of a music piece with very few different tones, repeating each other endlessly.

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By the way, I came by this today: http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Idiots

I've been privileged to meet and work with individuals who would fall under the category of genius and are much brighter than me, either in a few respects or many respects, and I take the opportunity to let them guide me. I give a lot of thought to what they are saying when I don't understand, and I ask for clarification until I do, or just admit I don't understand what they are talking about and probably don't have the capacity to.

So perhaps one might think I am stupid for not understanding a concept (I've certainly been in situations where an individual much more adept than me at a particular subject may have thought I was stupid), however I couldn't be called dumb in the context I'm using it, with any validity.

Oops, I should have explained my point more,

It must be difficult being someone who falls into the lower medium of the IQ, you and I and many others have the skills to understand most things in as many ways as possible, in deeper thought processes, faster .. blah blah etc.

The people you mentioned, the more you climb the ladder of intelligence the harder it is too relate, and the lower you fall on the IQ the same thing occurs.

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.

Bertrand Russell

With evolution, how does everyone keep an ability to relate to the standard medium?

Because people are getting smarter every day at an exponential rate, where as the 'dumb' people are getting left behind at that same rate.

How do we stay in touch with the people who have drifted from the evolution race, and how do we keep up with people like daniel tammet who are climbing the intelligence ladder like it's never ending :s

I used to think there was 'a smartest person' in every country.

I'm now under the impression that around the world their is a very wide variety of intelligence, that is about to branch off and create a new standard medium...(if evolution were to take it;s course, all the smart people today will have competition by a new intelligence tomorrow)....

what do you think?? :s

I realize that I'm not the smartest tool in the shed, so I keep to myself so I can improve on it.

I wasn't speaking of people with low IQ's in general. In fact the specific person I have in mind may actually have an average IQ. Some individuals don't give themselves the opportunity to learn or grow intellectually or otherwise. Whether this person will eventually or not, I'm not sure.



I don't believe the human race is necessarily heading in the direction of greater intelligence. I think more people are reaching their full intellectual potential but lets face it, and I will be rather blunt, stupid people breed more. Increase intelligence is not necessarily vital for survival of a species either and the level of intelligence needed to perpetuate the human race really isn't that high.



There are many different types of intelligence. I've met many individuals who were gifted in some areas and severely lacking in others.

innnnnteresting.

Do you know your IQ?

I know the test is culturally swayed etc. but at least there's a quotient to go on.

Yes. It's not an undesirable number. However while the tests are not without their biases, the more recent version have modifications to attempt to account for certain cultural variations. Regardless though as most people with AS and NVLD I have a large amount of scatter which makes my over all IQ a poor representative of my actual abilities, which are better measured independently.

I actually found various faults with the last test I was administered. One being a picture of a barn in which the "missing" item was supposed to be a weather vane, as it's commonly held by most urban and suburban individuals that barns have these. However in practice, most barns do not and they are more likely to be placed on a house or free standing post.

Anyway with respect to my original post I think a quantifiable measure of intelligence is not particularly relevant. Qualitative intelligence is far more relevant.