OMG extremely nice book

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Thank you very much for the example, Nonperson! I wonder how this writer gathered so much insight...

I'd say there are a fair few people like that but it's mostly when there 'special' interest is threatened so the neutral party would have to word it differently so as the other party doesn't come to the wrong conclusion.
'owning guns is a right but there has to be some gun laws to stop the wrong people owning them' or 'people should be allowed to own guns as its a right, but with laws in place to control who owns them' both mean the same but the first would fit the pro gun the second a anti gun.

I've been reading this book and let me just say, it's probably one of the best books out there for someone on the spectrum. It really helps to understand NT behavior better, which is essential if you want to build relationships outside of your limited, inner world.

It's reality, Neurotypicals want to try to ignore that for autistic people.
that's why autism spectrum is stated in the DSM.
Autistic people can chose between this two options:

1. Be themself, they'll generally lose, because neurotypicals can't accept difference only after very much resistance (homosexual movement)
2. Become neurotypical (by social stories), it's like a chimpanzee become bonobo because everyone else is a bonobo.
They generally will not accept your true self. They'll love your fake personality.


To hyperlexia: If you delete this thread, I know for sure you already have adapted to neurotypical behaviour

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Many autistic are very kind and don't want to 'fight' against neurotypicals, but they're for sure.
They want to control you with the term 'autism' or 'autistic', however, you have much more understanding what you're. Never let someone else say who you're.
It's just a political way of fighting autistic people, and have power on them.

It's the EGO thingy

Not only a few people, more and more people are being selected.

For everyone:

If the book is really depressive, you should atleast read the last pages.
Don't be afraid of being autistic, if you become neurotypical you'll probably suffer. You can't act your whole life like, a bonobo for example, just because people can't accept you as you're. It's their problem, not your.

If you escape by becoming more neurotypical you only let the next generation of autistic people suffer, and you let yourself suffering by adoptating neurotypical behaviour which is not natural for you.

My personal opinion is not becoming 'neurotypical' and than find a 'neurotypical' mate. You'll always feel depressed because everything is different in this mate.
Sexual, emotional, rational, etc.
If you really search a good mate I would give you advice to find someone similar, who understand your real SELF and not your fake personality.

Right, this must be why they force you to wear a badge that says "Autistic!" on all of your shirts and coats. And then they scour through medical databanks to make sure every person in the spectrum has the badges!
So when you show up for a job interview they *know* they'll be in big trouble if they give you a job! [/sarcasm].

In reality, I am glad I can get free consultations and help organizing my life, now that I've finally got the diagnosis.

Your story about stigma is more relevant to mainstream thinking and the ENTIRETY of psychiatric diagnoses... And that's just ignorant dumb people being dumb, not some massive political plot you seem to have conjured up...

Also, who "has power over you"?

You do love taking things to the extreme, don't you?
BorgPrince is merely stating that understanding brings acceptance, that knowledge is power and can empower you to do whatever (like build friendships etc.).
A relationship also includes becoming acquaintances with the woman working at the supermarket, becoming friends with co-workers and so on.
And yes, a romantic relationship does fall into this as well, which is great.
You don't have to act so doom and gloom, I've met many ASD's who live good lives with NT partners, (grand)children, the whole shabang...

By simply learning more about NT behaviour you can escape the limited world you apparently thrive in at the moment.
I truly wonder if you'd consider yourself selfish or not? Or at least so self-absorbed that you don't want to reach out and touch/experience more of the world?
Or are you just scared and jaded by some bad things in your past? I'm working past that myself, and I know one thing for sure:
Blaming "NT's" for everything is in no way helpful, as every good AND bad person is purely an individual. And whether they are NT or ASD makes zero difference in their also being a massive jerk or not

It's kind of incredible how much jaded, cynical people I see on WP that hate all NT's, usually "because they are so selfish in making everything abide by their social conventions and rules". Well, it's just because they are the majority, and it's just how their brain naturally works. They don't make that stuff up just to make it hard for the minority of ASD's! The diagnosis didn't even exist until an incredibly short blink of time in the whole of human civilization...

Reading it now. <3 Kindle app.

Well said, all of my friends are NT(ish) and relatively normal (for a given value of normal). They've always known me as odd but have accepted it.

Picked it up earlier today!
Will post my review when done!

Thanks paxfilosoof!

For what?

Ouch, that is fairly terrifying if it is accurate. That is kinda how I imagined things to work. Like you I'm quite worried that it might actually be the case - that fits in with the observations I've made. Going to buy the Kindle version now :p