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31 Oct 2017, 8:47 am

What do people make of the 'autistic' woman in STD (Ho ho! I mean Star Trek Discovery!)? Do we think she is? If she is, I like her, because she's not a pushover and is trying to change herself.



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31 Oct 2017, 4:17 pm

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The children's show "Arthur" came to mind when I saw this thread, the episode where Carl was introduced. He sounds more like a child with a severe case of autism, and was rather like a child version of Rain Man.


I wouldn't have been surprised if he was complaining about his underpants not being from K-Mart.


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31 Oct 2017, 8:30 pm

xatrix26 wrote:
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Graham Nash :oops:

- that was the folk rocker who was married Joni Mitchel and teamed up with Crosby, Stills, and Young.

Not the same Nash. :lol:

Caught only the tail end of a PBS doc about the John Nash actual life story that came out on the heels of the Russell Crowe movie.
So I don't know much about his real life story. But the movie portrays a schzo and not an aspie, even if he were an aspie in real life and not psychotic.


Interesting. You quoted me and then said Graham Nash so I assumed you simply got the name wrong.

These two individuals Graham Nash and John Forbes Nash Jr. seem to have very similar problems and commonalities. Both were perceived to have Schizophrenia, one did and one did not or perhaps both are not who knows. But both also exhibit very strong Autistic traits. Interesting...

I've done some research on this Graham Nash person and there seem to be many similarities between your and my character. The last name of course too.


Really? I didn't know that Graham Nash had ever been in the looney bin. Just now searched the web and cant find anything about that aspect of his personal life. Its possible. Creative folks like both of the two Nashes often are a little on the edge (comic genius Jonathan Winters spent time in institutions).

I found that PBS doc on U Tube. Watched most of it just now. Though John Nash didn't hallucinate it seems rather obvious that he was delusional. More than just an "aspie" with an excessive imagination.

Though I admit that Nash is a curious case. I read an essay years ago by Isaac Asimov about how certain people see connections that aren't there, but miss seeing the really good true connections between things. That is folks who are a paranoid and see conspiracies everywhere will not see real connections between things in nature to make scientific discoveries.

However Nash didn't seem to fit into Asimov's theory. Nash would see all kinds of connections in mathematics that others would miss that were meaningful and revolutionary. But he would also see false connection (like read the newspaper and see coded messages to himself from Russian spies, or from space aliens, that weren't there).



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01 Nov 2017, 2:03 am

I watched The Good Doctor last night. Yes, it's a melodrama/soap opera style of show, but I thought the actor portrayed autistic characteristics quite well. I know one of the arguments is that TV and movies mainly focus on savants but some of us are and it draws an audience so it's an obvious thing for writers and directors to zero in on. None of them want to make a show that doesn't sell. No depiction of autism by one character is ever going to cover and fully represent a spectrum but at least The Good Doctor gets away from the stupid, unrealistic, 'cute Sheldon" nonsense.


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