I'm scared I'll act weird around Jewish people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frum
I respect that issues of modesty can be embarrassing to discuss with other people, so have been glad for the internet, at times. It's possible to find examples of frum fashion, or to see how people look, in a synagogue. These ladies are still able to express themselves. I find that they wear interesting things, just without baring much skin, which might seem more natural, as the weather is getting cooler.
I personally came of age, somewhere between the era of grunge and hipster, was not necessarily bearded as a matter of Jewish identity. Later on, I took to wearing a brimmed hat, because it looked interesting to me. So, I look like a stereotype on accident. I'm not going out of my way, per se.
Rabbis in the more-liberal, reform synagogues do not look like me. You may find that people are wearing newer clothes, but look pretty ordinary.
When you say that you get too hyper, are you talking about a complete meltdown or just being in high gear?
When I'm too hyper I usually have the urge to run around or pace and it's often nearly impossible to control. It's kind of like diarrhea. I often get spaced out when I'm running or pacing and people often think I'm not self-aware when I pace.
I am usually aware that my pacing or running is not socially appropriate. It's just that I usually have no choice. What pisses me off is when people constantly tell me it's inappropriate or tease me about it. It actually makes me feel sick to my stomach when people mention my running or pacing. I often give it euphemisms like walking around, fast walking or even pacing. I just hate when people call it running.
I usually get like this if I'm sick, haven't slept enough or I get too excited. I hate when I'm like this, but I kind of enjoy it. I just wish I could turn invisible when I pace. I'm glad I don't get meltdowns. I would hate myself even more if I did.
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Is there a Jewish equivalent of the Holy Rollers?
You know- churches where they cavort around, writhe on the floror, and speak in tongues.
If so- then you would fit right in!
Go to a Reformed service. They're the hippie Jews (this was told to me by a Reformed Jew).
If it makes you feel any better, I know exactly what you're feeling about Judaism. I used to feel the same way about Ireland, but I've calmed down a little now. The first time I went to Ireland there was a red-headed Irish guy directing people at O'Hare, and I got all giggley and turned red and couldn't concentrate on what he was saying.
Then I went to Ireland and met an Irishman and married him.
So mind yourself around those Jewish boys. ![]()
Is there a Jewish equivalent of the Holy Rollers?
You know- churches where they cavort around, writhe on the floror, and speak in tongues.
If so- then you would fit right in!
Hardy har har, very funny.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
If it makes you feel any better, I know exactly what you're feeling about Judaism. I used to feel the same way about Ireland, but I've calmed down a little now. The first time I went to Ireland there was a red-headed Irish guy directing people at O'Hare, and I got all giggley and turned red and couldn't concentrate on what he was saying.
Then I went to Ireland and met an Irishman and married him.
So mind yourself around those Jewish boys.
I already dated a Jewish boy. I wasn't too crazy about him, I was mainly dating him because I wanted to be straight. At least that relationship ended well. We're still friends.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
Buddhism is a philosophy not a religion. So Buddhists go pretty much anywhere to practice mindfulness...you might find mindfullness can help you with your obsession...
I've found it helpful to get engaged, in some sort of orderly process, or activity, to use up nervous energy -- folding paper, stringing beads, anything to stay busy -- but, in a sequential, patterned sort of way. This is how I think of walking -- going from point A to point B, even if they are only very short distances.
But, the worship service is itself an orderly process, as through space and time.
I think I would be able to occupy myself by memorizing the program / schedule, line by line, or memorizing the words of the rabbi and cantor, and the details around the podium (in the general direction of the speaker) in order to keep my body from wandering.
Some people imagine a floorplan, house, building, town, or map. A word or phrase is put in each room. As you walk through the imaginary places (mentally) you would ideally recall factoids, in their given order. I used to imagine that the patterns in something, like the weave on a fabric, spots on a conveniently-facing wall, or grain in the wood was a maze, with shoots and ladders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
(Again, you are facing in the general direction of the speaker, so that your body gives the impression that you are participating.)
The movie, Bee Season also showed the use of other mnemonic devices, which, for me, helps to focus my mind, during an information overload. It may be free to read the book or watch it, online, but it's not the last place on Earth to go for more ideas.
It did take me some practice, but I personally experience some adrenaline being used up, in the effort of focusing.
I have unexpectedly been put on the spot, to be sure. I mean someone would ask me something, by surprise. I would like to think that my short pause made it look as though I was considering an answer. And, I did have one.
If you're not especially verbal, or seem slightly overwhelmed, as a girl, it might make you seem more vulnerable, or modest, at times.
I think men are expected to be somewhat more quick and forceful.
In the Christian tradition, it is written that the Son would go before us, and prepare a place for us, in the house of his Father. It is taught to build treasures in heaven, that there will be mansions, and these remind me of the mnemonic device of a house.
You know- churches where they cavort around, writhe on the floror, and speak in tongues.
If so- then you would fit right in!
The dances can also be rather elaborate, by Protestant standards.
I mean, I associate the hands raised in worship as being more charismatic, which happens in Jewish celebration, as well as at Pentecostal churches.
But, why aren't you afraid of becoming hyper around other religions?
Judaism seems to be a trigger for you, or it involves some trigger?
Ugh. My mind keeps on trying to convince me to convert one day. I know that I have a lot to learn about Judaism, but every time I find a reason not to convert my mind thinks of a counter-argument. I don't want to eat kosher, but my brain tells me that I shouldn't eat that much dairy anyways. It also says that the "forbidden animals" may cause health problems.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
Maybe we are all asking the wrong question.
The question is not what so enticeing about Judaism. The question is what so bad about it?
Just go ahead and study it, and maybe go to synagogue services- even experience different kinds of services (orthodox, reform, conservative, Sephardic, Azkenazi, whatever else varieties).
If it stays just an intellectual interest (Jews as varieties of butterflies) fine.
But if it ends up going to your heart- and you convert to the religion- then thats fine too.
Either way. Fine. So what?
But for some reason - its both drawing you- AND repelling you at the same time.
What exactly is the repelling part? Okay maybe it goes against your parents' religous beliefs. But okay- does that really matter to you? Or not?
The attraction part I kinda get. Like someone might get turned on to astrology- even though they maybe an ardent rationalist- because there might be something asthetically pleasing about astrology.
Its the repulsion part that needs to be explained.
I've found it helpful to get engaged, in some sort of orderly process, or activity, to use up nervous energy -- folding paper, stringing beads, anything to stay busy -- but, in a sequential, patterned sort of way. This is how I think of walking -- going from point A to point B, even if they are only very short distances.
But, the worship service is itself an orderly process, as through space and time.
I think I would be able to occupy myself by memorizing the program / schedule, line by line, or memorizing the words of the rabbi and cantor, and the details around the podium (in the general direction of the speaker) in order to keep my body from wandering.
Some people imagine a floorplan, house, building, town, or map. A word or phrase is put in each room. As you walk through the imaginary places (mentally) you would ideally recall factoids, in their given order. I used to imagine that the patterns in something, like the weave on a fabric, spots on a conveniently-facing wall, or grain in the wood was a maze, with shoots and ladders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Method_of_loci
(Again, you are facing in the general direction of the speaker, so that your body gives the impression that you are participating.)
The movie, Bee Season also showed the use of other mnemonic devices, which, for me, helps to focus my mind, during an information overload. It may be free to read the book or watch it, online, but it's not the last place on Earth to go for more ideas.
It did take me some practice, but I personally experience some adrenaline being used up, in the effort of focusing.
I have unexpectedly been put on the spot, to be sure. I mean someone would ask me something, by surprise. I would like to think that my short pause made it look as though I was considering an answer. And, I did have one.
If you're not especially verbal, or seem slightly overwhelmed, as a girl, it might make you seem more vulnerable, or modest, at times.
I think men are expected to be somewhat more quick and forceful.
In the Christian tradition, it is written that the Son would go before us, and prepare a place for us, in the house of his Father. It is taught to build treasures in heaven, that there will be mansions, and these remind me of the mnemonic device of a house.
You know- churches where they cavort around, writhe on the floror, and speak in tongues.
If so- then you would fit right in!
The dances can also be rather elaborate, by Protestant standards.
I mean, I associate the hands raised in worship as being more charismatic, which happens in Jewish celebration, as well as at Pentecostal churches.
But, why aren't you afraid of becoming hyper around other religions?
Judaism seems to be a trigger for you, or it involves some trigger?
Maybe I'll try that stuff. I'm scared of becoming hyper around other religions as well, but I'm scared of becoming extra hyper around Jewish people. Mainly because I'll get extra excited. I'm also scared of my family noticing different behavior around Jewish people.
_________________
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
The question is not what so enticeing about Judaism. The question is what so bad about it?
Just go ahead and study it, and maybe go to synagogue services- even experience different kinds of services (orthodox, reform, conservative, Sephardic, Azkenazi, whatever else varieties).
If it stays just an intellectual interest (Jews as varieties of butterflies) fine.
But if it ends up going to your heart- and you convert to the religion- then thats fine too.
Either way. Fine. So what?
But for some reason - its both drawing you- AND repelling you at the same time.
What exactly is the repelling part? Okay maybe it goes against your parents' religous beliefs. But okay- does that really matter to you? Or not?
The attraction part I kinda get. Like someone might get turned on to astrology- even though they maybe an ardent rationalist- because there might be something asthetically pleasing about astrology.
Its the repulsion part that needs to be explained.
I'm mainly scared of what people will think. That usually keeps me from acting on stuff at first, but that doesn't seem to affect what I'll do later. I'm also scared that there's too many rules to follow. I'm also scared that I won't be accepted by Jewish people. My plan right now is to learn some Hebrew and visit the synagogue with my family. I didn't suggest visiting the synagogue so there's less chance they'll think I'm obsessed. If I totally hate going to the synagogue that might end my obsession.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 82 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 124 of 200
You are very likely neurotypical
I felt that Messianic Judaism was an interesting compromise with Protestantism, because it recognizes Jewish, legal precedents, studies and observes them, but without considering the ceremonial portions of the law to be binding.
There are all manners of debate, from either side, as to whether the two religions are compatible. So, this compromise is not universally accepted.
But, there are Messianic communities in Israel.
And, it is considered useful in the study of Christianity.
For that matter, Christian apologists like Paul study the claims of many faiths and philosophies, so as to speak to those people.
It is possible to learn about something without converting to it, to say what you believe and what other people believe, to compare and contrast different belief systems.
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