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25 Dec 2008, 12:56 pm

Anybody with any intelligence at all would have noticed the number of posts LePetitPrince has made. If somebody is too dumb to figure it out, post count is directly below the avatar.

Everybody on this forum knows that LePetitPrince is male and his claim to be a female "feminist activist" is a joke. I can't believe anybody would be dumb enough to think he's a stalker expecting people to believe he's female.

Oh, but wait. People who are dumb could never brag about having high IQ's.


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25 Dec 2008, 3:04 pm

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Oh, but wait. People who are dumb could never brag about having high IQ's.

Thank you. Even though Stephen hawking him self has said the quote above its ONE person even if he is a f*****g genius. Everyone is going to have different views.

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Ephemerella, I'm certainly not an teenager who is obsesses over sex. In fact, I'm not a teenager at all. Also, I have an Associate of Art Degree. I know computer and ect. I may not be as smart as some of the high functional AS, but I sure can hold a conversation with any out there.

Some of the most educated minds are jackasses. They may have fancy degrees but they can't apply any principals in their live. I don't discriminate between the higher or lower AS, or for that matter with low functional Autistic. I can not compete with a savant, myself.

Many AS have been put down all their lives. They don't need to be insulted.

One might say and has said that there is a difference between smart and educated, just as there is a difference between joy and happiness it is rather vague and most people dont understand it. You can flash your PhD in bio engineering around but that does not give one common sense or great knownledge in another subject completely irrevelent to ones fancy-ass PhD. I applaud you for grasping this concept as I cringe when I hear "He went to Harvard law school he must be a genius".



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25 Dec 2008, 7:20 pm

Airborne wrote:
One might say and has said that there is a difference between smart and educated

Right, you can even be educated stupid (note: link is to total schizophrenic insanity).



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25 Dec 2008, 7:28 pm

@ thread creator.

If you're speaking of aspies then you're speaking of someone who is high functioning and has average or high IQ.

What do you want? If you believe low functioning people are posting then that's called an autistic.



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25 Dec 2008, 8:32 pm

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ephemerella after reading your posts you come across a bit narcissistic. Sorry :shrug:

Anyway that doesn't matter it should make for some more interesting threads. :wink: If you have things that you want to talk about, quit complaining and make some threads.


Agreed. This thread wouldn't even get a "T" rating, as it seems pretty childish.


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26 Dec 2008, 9:01 pm

MR_BOGAN wrote:
ephemerella after reading your posts you come across a bit narcissistic. Sorry :shrug:

Anyway that doesn't matter it should make for some more interesting threads. :wink: If you have things that you want to talk about, quit complaining and make some threads.


After reading some of your posts, you seem to weigh in from the peanut gallery against an educated woman's view. I.e. white male pragmatist from the trailer park against female elists, seems to be a preferred posture of yours.

That, too, is a tired story that is a familiar form of male chauvinistic narcissism.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:11 pm

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That "The Competition: On Quashing Them" is not only NOT a mature topic, it's a dysfunctional teen Machiavellian plotting for sex approach to getting girls. It falls in both the "Teen" and the "Machiavellian" categories.

Hey, give me a break. I'm 24, so it's really "young adult" issues rather than "teenaged" issues. It's a reaction to literally years' worth of ungratifying and all-around frustrating relations with women. Am I actually considering doing unethical things against the competition? Probably not; thought is not the same as action. Sexual frustration and a yearning for intimacy are not immature, puerile matters even if they find expression in topics like "The Competition: On Quashing Them." ...


Oh god, don't tell me about "literally years' worth of ungratifying and all-around frustrating..." At 24 you are ready to resort to what are equivalent to the social "cheating" tactics of NT losers.

Let me explain something to you. Should you succeed in ever getting laid, using your tactics, you know what you will find? Someone who is a head case, incompatible with you and buying into lies and/or schemes in order to be with you. Using those kinds of schemes to get a woman in your life, will get you hooked up with an inappropriate person, should you ever succeed.

There is nothing worse for an AS than having a chaotic relationship or person in their life.

The things that you are promoting are the lamest, sleazebag stuff that only the losers among NTs do. For an AS to set themselves up with dishonest or underhanded relationships is to court disaster.

The only way to get ahead of the developmental curve as AS is to avoid having bad people who will undermine you and confuse your life in your life. Having a chaotic person in your life can derail your college career or career.

When you have an inappropriate person in your life your social understanding becomes more confused, not less, as time goes on. Your stress levels go up, you start having more meltdowns. I become lower-functioning when I have someone inappropriate in my life.

It's hard to describe how lame and self-defeating the stuff you are pushing on this website is. Instead of doing the stuff you are pushing, focusing on real development, like social skills, maturing yourself, making yourself more attractive are the kinds of self-development efforts that really stick.

The machiavellian, immature, unhanded stuff like sabotaging other males around your target female, isn't the kind of stuff that most AS can master. More likely, they will step in deep doo doo in attempts to stab other males in their jobs, school classes, etc. in the back to get a girl, and their attempts to manipulate will probably blow up in their faces.

It's hard to describe how unutterably lame and immature and pointless the stuff you are pushing is. The fact that you get hostility and negativity from the women you approach is obvious. As I have written in another post to one of your threads, the stuff you push is repulsive for women and accounts for the responses you complain of that you get from them.

But please, feel free to bash me for my critiques.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:13 pm

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I think she doesn't really realize how she comes off: Arrogant, self assured, and a "spoiled" know it all. I'm sure it's not intentional but I can see how it comes across "holier then thou", if you read her blog posts, one wonders why she is interested in such topics when she has had many a man chasing her and has had tonnes of practice.

Personally it seems odd to me that someone so old and knowledgeable in life would come looking for such high brow talk on wrongplanet, which is guaranteed to have a high signal to noise ratio in what she is looking for specifically.
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Indeed. There really is no point.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:17 pm

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I love the assumption that High IQ = Intelligence and maturity. Now I have near genius level of IQ but I don't consider my maturity above people based on what they write in a forum. Furthermore I think it’s kind of childish to say "I can't find intelligent conversation here so let’s make up my own forum." Go to www.simplemachines.org and buy web space and make your own forum that is the only way you can police other threads.


If you look at my post, I object to the immaturity most of all. I don't imply immaturity from I.Q. level.

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In general though while I dislike the very negative view of Asperger's I still believe that they have their right to post and say it as I have my right to not like it and post a response that the original poster might not have wanted.


It's not worth the trouble trying to have a discussion on a higher level when they insist on weighing in and shutting down or attacking that which they don't understand or feel comfortable with.

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I'm sure this conversation will be very productive...


I doubt it.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:18 pm

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How do you contact a moderator?


it's not *that* complicated :roll:

I hope you're just being lazy...


Wow, you still didn't answer the question, tho you bothered to reply to the post. Do you think that I asked that b/c I know how to?



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26 Dec 2008, 9:25 pm

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Ephemerella, I'm certainly not an teenager who is obsesses over sex. In fact, I'm not a teenager at all. Also, I have an Associate of Art Degree. I know computer and ect. I may not be as smart as some of the high functional AS, but I sure can hold a conversation with any out there.

Some of the most educated minds are jackasses. They may have fancy degrees but they can't apply any principals in their live. I don't discriminate between the higher or lower AS, or for that matter with low functional Autistic. I can not compete with a savant, myself.

Many AS have been put down all their lives. They don't need to be insulted.


Yes, and I don't like having to be told I have to speak a certain way about NTs because it is implied we are inferior to them.

I feel very insulted on this site where everyone is talking about AS like some disease and worshipping NTs. And people promote cheating and backstabbing to get a girl, when AS don't have to do that (and aren't good at it). It's like the mindset is that we are inferior to NTs and have to copy the behaviors of the losers among them in order to get by.

I know that most educated minds are jackasses. In my opinion, most of those educated minds that are jackasses are NT minds.

We are not inferior to NTs. We are, in the ways that are important to me, better than NTs. But the ways that are important to me are dictated by my AS-ness, so my value system may not be the same, if I were NT.

You obviously don't know the context for any of my comments, and think I am bashing AS. I'm not. I'm unhappy with the low level of personal insight that is applied to trying to copy and be like the losers among the NTs, using the loser tactics, learning how to lie, cheat and sneak to get girls, instead of focusing on self-development.

The tactics I see being pushed in this section are for those who think of themselves as losers and freaks.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:30 pm

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Anybody with any intelligence at all would have noticed the number of posts LePetitPrince has made. If somebody is too dumb to figure it out, post count is directly below the avatar.

Everybody on this forum knows that LePetitPrince is male and his claim to be a female "feminist activist" is a joke. I can't believe anybody would be dumb enough to think he's a stalker expecting people to believe he's female.

Oh, but wait. People who are dumb could never brag about having high IQ's.


It is not my job to figure out what someone's sexist-accusation and posing-as-female history implies and whether things are a joke or not. It's not my job to try to figure out ways to explain someone's behavior away, when they come off as a female-stalker and basher.

I just avoid them. If I have reason to change my mind later, it will be based on other, substantive posts they make. Not on any explanations or excuses.

My opinion shouldn't matter anyways, I'm just an old female, right? So what's your point? You have none.



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26 Dec 2008, 9:33 pm

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@ thread creator.

If you're speaking of aspies then you're speaking of someone who is high functioning and has average or high IQ.

What do you want? If you believe low functioning people are posting then that's called an autistic.


I'm talking about the thought-policing and self-defeating mentality of some AS on this site. It's not whether anyone should have a low or high I.Q. or what that means.

Thought policing usually occurs as the lower-I.Q. impose limitations on the speech of those who they don't understand and whose words they fear.

I'm not accusing anyone on this L & D forum of thought-policing but that occurs on other ones on this site.

What I do see on the L & D forum are self-defeating ideas.

No, I don't belong on here, or on this site at all.



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26 Dec 2008, 10:20 pm

ephemerella wrote:
anna-banana wrote:
ephemerella wrote:
How do you contact a moderator?


it's not *that* complicated :roll:

I hope you're just being lazy...


Wow, you still didn't answer the question, tho you bothered to reply to the post. Do you think that I asked that b/c I know how to?


How to get moderator attention.


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26 Dec 2008, 11:30 pm

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Oh god, don't tell me about "literally years' worth of ungratifying and all-around frustrating..." At 24 you are ready to resort to what are equivalent to the social "cheating" tactics of NT losers.

I actually have not implemented any of these tactics and have so far taken the high road (unless you count the occasional lascivious remark, which I don't because I see sensuality as a healthy thing).
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[Condescending lead-in sentence clipped.] Should you succeed in ever getting laid, using your tactics, you know what you will find? Someone who is a head case....

The bulk of the women I meet, just starting a conversation with, seem to be nutcases. Whether they approach me or I approach me, they rarely turn out to fit my understanding of sane and normal (not that I want boring ordinary, mind you). I've got women making up a B.S. religion to claim they can't even be touched by a man before marriage; I've met one who told me about all the recent chaos in her life on the first date; and of course there's always the original.
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There is nothing worse for an AS than having a chaotic relationship or person in their life.

Been there, done that. Still graduated from college and got the career started. I kept to the high road all along and never once so much as raised my voice in anger to her. Instead, I diligently, systematically coaxed her towards more productive ways of expressing herself and always expressed disagreement lovingly. I always firmly stood my ground while making it absolutely clear how I felt. Obstacles were thrown up but proved no deterrent. Of course, it still didn't work out, and yes, the rather huge amount of effort I put in (not to mention time) results in a reeling loss that may have taken a heavy toll on me psychologically.
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When you have an inappropriate person in your life your social understanding becomes more confused, not less, as time goes on. Your stress levels go up, you start having more meltdowns. I become lower-functioning when I have someone inappropriate in my life.

I may have become more confused in some ways, but I became more confident by being able to deal with her. I know a little bit better now how to separate the wheat from the chaff: to cut off those who are like leaches and to provide comfort to those who are loyal. I can certainly handle a wider variety of situations and people than a few years ago.
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It's hard to describe how lame and self-defeating the stuff you are pushing on this website is.

I do not "own" it as instruction for other aspies on what to do but more as emotional venting of my frustration. I really do not recommend anyone go about quashing the competition.
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Instead of doing the stuff you are pushing, focusing on real development, like social skills, maturing yourself, making yourself more attractive are the kinds of self-development efforts that really stick.

I have been making some improvement in these areas as well over the past five years. I can now chat friendlily and making amusing jokes in a group of people (fortunately, the aspie knowledge means you always have something interesting to say and can contribute meaningfully to any discussion that goes beyond pop culture crap).
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The fact that you get hostility and negativity from the women you approach is obvious.

I have not actually implemented the "Machiavellian" approach. My approach so far has been very simple: walk up and say hi, try to start a conversation about whatever strikes my (or her) fancy at the moment, try to ask a few questions to get to know her a little (and get some idea of what she might like); if I don't know much about her interests, I'm pretty curious about most things, so I just ask to try to find out more. Often, I'm repelled before much of a conversation can even get going (e.g., she's "busy," about to meet some friends, already has a boyfriend/fiancé/husband). The need to develop some kind of strategy arose when I realized that, after years of doing this, it's just not working.



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26 Dec 2008, 11:33 pm

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Zane I don’t really know.


Nice to meet you, the name's Zane Thomas acter extrordanaire 8)

May we become best of friends or worst of foes :lol:

Only kidding :wink:


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