I made up with him, am waiting to see if he'll take me back.
I'll be able to prevent his father from bossing him around too much and acting like he knows it all when he doesn't, I guess. I am worried about him, having a father like that.
I sent this to him:
If he refuses to reassure me that he'll let me take part in my son's life just as if I was still one of his guardians, like he has refused to reassure me of things in the past when i needed reassurance that he wouldn't do those things again (even though sometimes he eventually came round and reassured me he wouldn't, saying that he thought he had made it clear to me that he understood, but with the other things he refused to acknowledge he'd done them or give a reason why he'd done them, and when he gave the reason he never explained why that reason didn't make sense to me because of such-and-such so I thought it was false.) He also often doesn't reply to my other emails. He should at least reply saying he understands if he does, but he doesn't reply at all. He either doesn't care, or assumes I assume he read them and understood them, but I want proof that he read them and understood them. Some of the things I want him to reply to are explanations of why I was the way I was, telling him that the reason why he thought I was like that was wrong and that I hadn't been able to explain it to him before (a fault of my brain) but that now I was able to. He could have told me that the reason he didn't explain to me why he did those things was because he didn't have time or he was bored of explaining things like that to me and that boredom was bad for his mental health; those reasons would have been good reasons. It would have taken him just as much time, not more, to explain to me why he didn't answer me instead of just saying "I won't do it because it's too many emails to reply to", which takes just as much time as saying "I don't have time." At least then I would have knwn it wasn't just that he didn't care about those feelings I was having.
I don't know what I'm going to do. Leave him? I can't do that. I'd like to punish him somehow though. any ideas?
I also sent him this, because it was on my mind:
Then:
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Way back when, my guy unknowingly punished me by going away and not talking to me. Not only did that give both of us time to think things over, it made me realize just how demanding I was of him and how I never really acknowledged all the good things about him. How's the saying go...? One doesn't fully appreciate the value of something (or someone) until it (or he/she) is gone.
I know you can't just drop absolutely everything and not see Stan or talk to him, after all you have a court date less than 2 weeks away.
This is the most awesome thing and it's great that you thought of it!! The question now is how best to teach this? Perhaps you've been trying to teach it by telling him what's been working and what hasn't so far... but I'd suppose part of any lesson involves allowing the student time to think about the new material on his own, digest it, do homework/practice it, etc., just like any other school thing...
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Okay, I just said the thing about him doing nice things for me for his own selfish reasons because I was angry. It isn't necessarily true that he did that for his own selfish reasons.
Also, he said that I might have hurt him more by bringing up negative things he did than he hurt me by doing those negative things. Maybe that was true. He says that I should have thought/cared about how he felt, always having those things brought up about him. I knew it would hurt him but it might have helped me more than it hurt him, and I could say that he should have thought about how I felt, that that stuff meant a huge lot to me and it did, probably more than not having negative stuff brought up about him meant to him. Both of us were being selfish here, it wasn't just me like he says it was. But we had no choice but to be selfish; it isn't either one of our faults that those things meant a lot to us to the point where doing anything for them was worth it.
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Thanks, GCS.
But I don't have a desire to be in just any relationship. I will always be with Stan no matter what, because there's a huge piece of soul that is part of him and part of me combined...
Also, good news-- he said that as I would always be Lars's mother, he would definitely let me have input in decisions made for him.
If you feel that he's treating you like a child, or that he's protecting you from the truth at the expense of your emotional maturity; take lead yourself. You don't need him to look after you, but this doesn't mean you can't be with him, the father of your child. If he's protective, it's a nice thing, but just let him know that you can handle yourself and the truth in diplomatic terms, and if he's worth his salt, he'll understand.
Take charge when bad things happen, and if you show that you're responsible, reasonable and capable, and if the father of your child loves you, he'll respect and acknowledge such.
He says he has never protected me from the truth and me aand some other members figured out that that time I thought he was treating me like a child he actually wasn't.
That said...
My bringing up issues would have ended; I was just bringing up the few things related to the few things I cared about, and so he could have met my needs. But he thought I would keep bringing things up and that he would never meet my needs, so he didn't bother to try to.
I probably shouldn't have made an issue out of him not responding to my issues with him. Because I did say that all I cared about was those issues themselves.
It's true that when *I* did things that upset *him* he didn't bring them up with me over and over until I acknowledged my wrongness and apologized. Maybe that was because his love for me was bigger than mine for him was when I brught up my issues with him, like he says it was, but maybe his need to get closure for times I wronged him was just smaller than mine was when I brought up the times he wronged me. His consideration for my feelings was greater than his need to have his own feelings acknwledged (he brught my wronging him up just a few times whereas I didn't drop it after a few times about him wronging me), but that's because his own feelings weren't that big, not because his consideration was big. My need was greater than my consideration for his feelings, but that's only because my need was huge, not because my consideration for his feelings was any smaller than that of a person that didn't love themself. During those moments I was focused on myself that was probably what it was. My love for myself right then: was it bigger than my love for him? Even though I was thinking about him positively and he had to have known that. One might say that he gave me more love than I gave him, but how can that be true? The only times that count are the times he paid attention to me and I paid attention back to him, and vice-versa. In order for him to be paying attention to me the part of me he's paying attention to has to be right there paying attention to him too. It happens with parts of both of us paying attention at the same time to each other. Him not bringing me doing those things to him up was love; I appreciated it; it's true I appreciated him not really minding those things.
So what; our love for each other was initiated more by his doings than by mine. We loved each other equally.
I guess my loving relationship with just myself is currently grater than my loving relationship with him. But his love for me isn't any bigger than my love for him; that's impossible. His love for me is therefore smaller than my love for myself. However, that does not mean that y love for him is smaller than someone else's love for him would be. And none of this means that his relatiohship with just himself is bigger or smaller than his relatiohship with me. This simply means that I love him and pay attention to our relationship as much as usual, but I also pay attention to my big relationship with just myself, so he gets just as much attention as I can give him, always thinking about all of him that I know of, and there's stiill extra room for thinking about myself... maybe that time would be better devoted to finding more of him. But I don't know; it's true that our relationship wasn't getting attention when I was bringing up things he'd done to me.
Thie above is like a tangled ball of string. The more I try to untangle it, the more tangled it gets.
Oh, screw it, this is rubbish. I love my relationship with him more than I love my relationship with just myself right now but I still want to clear up issues with him. In that way in that instance I'm more concerned with myself.
Oh, and he says he loves me and will keep loving me and I said I loved him and would keep loving him. I don't know exactly what that means. He loves the part of me he knows of and always has and has loved me more and more as he found more parts of me because it's impossible not to have, I love the part of him I know of and always have and have loved him more as I found more parts of him because it's impossible not to have.
I'm trying to understand him right now but he's not trying to understand me. He either doesn't care or thinks he understands. Or rather, he understands part of it, but he doesn't understand the whole picture.
He makes a decision, and if I contest it he simply says he does not want to argue with me. So if I find his decision wrong, I just have to shut up and accept his decision, even if he's wrong, because "he's right".
He wants me to empathize with him, telling me I should empathize with the fact that he doesn't want to talk about some things he did to me, but what if I do empathize with him? But he doesn't empathize with me and my extra-abnormal need for understanding when it comes to those issues I wanted to talk to him about. Maybe I don't understand that his need to not talk about it is greater than my need to talk about it. And I understand that maybe I don't understand that. I'm ahead of him because he never said he understood that maybe my need was greater than his. And that he just doesn't know. Like I don't know. I admit that I don't understand how great his need to not talk about it might be and that it may be so great that he's incapable of seeing my need to have him see that my need might be greater than his. And maybe my need is so great it makes me incapable of seeing his need... f**k it; this is confusing.
I'm really not okay right now. I mean, I'm always okay overall, but I'm not okay. Maybe in a way I'm getting what I deserve for bringing up bad things about him and making him uncomfortable... now he's making me uncomfortable around him telling me I'm selfish and all of that. Maybe I caused him hurt by doing other things he didn't understand that appeared to be for hurtful reasons, and now he's getting back at me with this court order, doing things I don't understand for seemingly hurtful reasons like thinking I'm selfish. But doing this court thing and just getting mad at me for bringing up bad things makes him a hypocrite in a way, because he doesn't want me to bring up the bad things about him but now he's bringing up the bad things about me bringing up bad things about him.
Both of us were wrong in a way; we got mad and we shouldn't have. But I'm mad at us for getting mad so that makes me still wrong and negative. Let's break the cycle... he's right and I'm right. There.
Alba, why did you delete the contents of your post? You did just fine; you brought up great points.
Ana, I deleted it because after re-reading, it looked overbearing and preachy. I have no right to do that. But I do care about what happens to you and Lars.
I should have said positively, "I like it when I'm treated like this." Instead of bringing up things he did wrong. I realizenow that that's the way to do it.
That's good! Our little Ana is turning into a woman!!
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mmmm...okay...but don't encourage me too much..
Ana, I get the impression you are a very attractive young woman. Just a couple things which I really should keep my mouth shut about...
1. Never underestimate the power of a beautiful woman. Even other women are impressed by beauty. In court you do not want to look sexy. So if all your clothes make you look sexy, you will need a new outfit. A business suit is perfect---muted tones. Nothing bright or flashy. Nothing tight or too short. You want to look as beautiful as you possibly can, but in a very understated conservative way. If you look too sexy, it will tend to work against you. You also want to appear calm, cool, collected and stable....serenely detached and lovely. Try to arrange for the judge to see you holding Lars even if only for a split second..Or alternatively bring photos into court. That just occurred to me. Bring photos of you and Lars and politely ask if the Judge would be interested in seeing them..
2. Have your attorney make the appropriate pleas for the court that whatever the court orders if it is prohibitive or restrictive-- will be contingent on your medical improvement. Then search for a health care professional who would be inclined to give impressive testimony to the court regarding your maternal skills and/or overall competency [this would be planning for future court appearances..] If you are not able to acquire an attorney, you may want to make your own plea to the Judge. When doing so, you want to be calm and self-assured, not sexy or coy. Maybe rehearse in front of a mirror.
I may need new clothes, yes.
I don't have any pictures of me with Lars; Stan has them all.
I have some pictures of Lars alone that Stan sent me but I would have to print them out. And I don't know what that would do; the point is to have pictures of me with Lars.
From now on I'll be nice and happy to Stan and if he becomes nice and happy I'll forgive him or give him the happiness he deserves.. I need help, however, to be nice and happy to him, and it isn't my fault I need help. And he needs help to be happy and nice to me. But if I'm happy and nice to him that may be all the help he needs.
I should have posted all this somewhere where Stan isn't known. I feel really bad about what I did to Stan, starting to post things about him here and then needing to continue to correct misconceptions about him caused by my first postings about him. I told him I'm sorry I damaged his reputation by posting it on WP. And that he can fix it if he wants or I can fix it, but that I think he thinks defending himself will just make it worse because more people will see the things written against him if we do that... But he should have told me I could have gone somewhere else for moral supprt... but I should have known... whatever, it's neither of our faults.
Edit: last week or so, I made a promise to myself that I would never break up with Stan (his definition of breaking up) or do anything that he considered cheating on him, and I meant it. I knew it was true that I wouldn't do those things, so it's impossible for me to break my promise. Because I promised and meant it.
Now I care even more about Stan than I care about defending myself. So I'm going to get some outside person to say nice things to both of us so that I can feel good enough to be nice to him more and he'll feel good enough to be nice to me more. I mean, I'll still go to court for Lars's sake, but I'll be nice to Stan otherwise.
Stan petitioned the court to be Lars's sole custodian because he doesn't trust me to give LArs as a good a life as he would give him, and let him see him, but he expects me to bl;indly trust him to have him and let him see me.
He sued me! I just got notification that I've been sued. Because after I broke up with him I guess he was scared I would take our son Lars and run off with him.
He used my post about wanting to (but not planning to) shoot up schools against me (the cops came to my door and took me away, I was in a psych ward for a few days and then I was released because I was deemed not a threat), and my psychiatric record from the Harris County Psychiatric Center. He quoted the part where I said "I have it all planned out." By saying I had it all planned out, I didn't mean that I was planning to do it, but that I had it planned out how I would have done it if I had chosen to do it.
He also either thought or lied about the fact that I left to go to Canada to end our relationship. I hadn't. We had spent a loving day together and promised each other we wouldn't break up with each other, and he even brought that fact up with me once when I was bringing up issues with him. HE sasid, "Did our loving day together mean nothing to you?" Maybe he changed his mind about my motives since then and thought I hadn't meant it when I'd been loving to him and promised not to break up with him, but I don't know. When I told him that he said he could not tell me why he wrote in the petition that I had left with the intention of ending the relatiohship. But I got the impression that it wasn't that he didn't know; he said he just couldn't tell me.
He claimed I left Houston with the intention of breaking up with him, and cleaims it was because we weren't together at the time he petitioned the court because I left him, when as a matter of fact we were together, or at least I hadn't broken up with him and he hadn't said he was breaking up with me. We had agreed to get back together after I had said I was breaking up with him before (but after I left Houston). I was questioning him about issues in the past that I had had with him and asking him to understand them and not do those things again and say he wouldn't. I was angry at him for not recognizing what he had done wrong and apolgizing for it, and I yelled at him once, and he took that as me breaking up with him. We clearly do not have the same definition of breaking up, and we don't have the same definition of breaking up as the court does. He doesn't appear to even know the difference between his definition of breaking up and the court's definition.
He also wants me to pay him child support-- not now, but later. [Edit: he said that he had to ask the attorney about the paragraphs that said that; he says the paragraphs actually said that he could ask for child support but wasn't going to.] He wants me to never have access to Lars except on supervised visits, I think until my mental issues are resolved with a shrink, but they were resolved with a shrink. I have to go to court in Houston on April 7.
He said in the petition to the court that I have a history of schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder, which is not true; it's just schizoaffective disorder. I was not actually diagnosed with schizophrenia; he told the people at one hospital that I had schizoaffective disorder and they mistakenly wrote down that I had schizophrenia. Edit: Stan told me that he believed I had schizophrenia because the psych team at the hospital asked me the diagnostic questions and that they still wrote down that I had schizophrenia after, which they had; I saw. Stan also told me that the diagnostic criteria said that I didn't have to have hallucinations to be schizophrenic, and that I had the symptoms described in the diagnostic criteria, and he told me to read the diagnostic criteria. He also told me that schizophrenia wsn't as bad as schizoaffective disorder because with schizoaffective disorder you also have a mood disorder. So maybe by his definition I do have schizophrenia, so maybe he didn't mean to lie.
He says his lawyer knows the judge. That's illegal. He salso said his lawyer told him that the judge was a good one (probably meaning for him).
He also said my bipolarness and schizoidness put my son at risk of physical harm. That's not true. I never hurt him, and I would never. He even told me not to tell the doctors that I felt like hurting my child because it's not true; what I really felt like doing was sometimes waiting a little longer to feed him and he said that was fine. He left me alone in the house with Lars when he went out. He said I was a good mother. And he sent me a picture of my son just today! Stan isn't stable.
Furthermore, he has a restraining order against me.
He also said that I said that I wished Lars had never been born, and I hadn't EVER said that at all.
He filed the petition on March 10.
Yes, once when I had broken up with Stan I said that I was planning with my mother to take Lars and go to Nova Scotia without Stan. The truth is that I wanted Stan in his son's life, and me and my mother planned to go to Nova Scotia, but we were going to get a lawyer so that I could have joint custody of Lars with him instead of him having full custody. I hadn't told Stan that because I forgot to tell him, and I should have told him. Also, I said that yes we had been planning to take Lars without Stan's permission, but I wasn't thinking clearly. Also, why didn't he just sue my mother if he was afraid of her kidapping Lars? And if he was scared of me kidnapping Lars but not physically harming him, why did he say the things about me being a danger to him and prone to physically harming him?
Yes, I did try to run away from him twice, but I still wanted to remain in contact with him and Lars and still be in a relationship with him, but from a distance... I wanted to do things with my life and be in a relationship with him at the same time. And I did plan to go back eventually, though I didn't know when.
Also, he said I left Lars for a day without responding to his cries. The truth was, I left him to Stan to take care of because I was feeling so low I couldn't get up. He said I had no motivation to pay attention to Lars, but that was only because Iw as on Risperdal, which made me tired, and then the doctor gave me Abilify to counteract the tiredness, and it did, and then they took me off the Risperdal, and I was still fine.
It's true that I had disordered thinking where I came up to Canada; I forgot that Lars would be much happier having both his parents with him at the same time than with just one parent. But now Stan wants to be the only one with him, so he's not thinking about Lars either.
Edit: He just wants a temporary restraining order and for me not to have access to Lars until my mental condition is fixed... but he should have said "until I know for certain that her condition is fixed", because he didn't know for certain that my condition needed to be fixed. He probably thought I would hurt my son because I had talked about hurting other people, but I would never hurt my own son. I had meant that I wanted to hurt people outside the autism community, and him being my son whom I planned to raise in the autism community whether he was autistic or not, I did not want to hurt him. And I was getting proper medical help in Canada for my mental condition. I am now. They let me out of the hospital because they believed that I was safe enough to be an outpatient. So I should be able to see my son now. Anyway, I wouldn't hurt my son. True, if I hurt other people I would be in jail and not able to look after my son, but they should allow people to have their children in jail, with all the child's needs met of course.
He said in the petition that I wanted to raise our son to be autistic. What I had meant was to raise him in the autistic community, to which Stan and I both belong. I love my son too much to force him into anything or keep him away from things he loves outside the autistic community; I hadn't meant I would do that. That is someone I would never do to someone in the autistic community because I love them too much. The outside of the autistic community is an important part of the autistic community. But my son is a part of the autism community simply by being our son.
Also, I probably won't be able to make it to court because I don't have a passport to get down to the US from up here in Canada. The court date is April 7, and I definitely will not have a passport by then even if I apply for it right now. And if I don't make it to court, they may make a default judgement against me. Edit: you don't need a passport yet to get into the US! So I can go!
He said I was an illegal alien, but he is the one that sneaked me down there. He will have to lie about sneaking me over the border himself. Also, he didn't report me all the time I was with him and I had been down there for longer than the allowed 6 months, and he hadn't taken me back. He will get in trouble for not either reporting me or taking me back to Canada.
He said that I wouldn't be able to support Lars, and that's not true. I could have applied for the $350 for a dependent child that Lars, a dual citizen of Canada and the United States, is entitled to. Even if that wasn't the case, I could have asked HIM for child support and been fine. After all, he asked me for child support. HE said I would not be able to support Lars because I'd never kept a job for more than 4 days, yet he told me that he believed I could do it if I really tried. Is it that he didn't think I would be motivated even with Lars, or did he just think I couldn't do it despite what he said? Probably the former, as he said he never lied to me. Stan also said that I had never kept a job for longer than 2 days, when it was actually 4 days.
He said that I left for Canada with the intention of ending the relationship. That is not true. We promised each other the day I left that we would not break up with each other. We spent a nice, loving day together. He told me that if I wanted to return in a week or more he would make that happen. I said I wanted to end the relationship a few times after we got back to Canada, but then I got back with him, and I had never meant to break up in the first place; I just said I wanted to, impulsively. And after I had been in Canada for a while I told him he and Lars should come up to where I planned to live in PEI and live with me.
He should have taken his problems with me up with me instead of going to a judge. I would have answered his questions. And I'm sorry for all the times I posted on WrongPlanet about him with assumptions of what he had done and why he had done it, instead of taking it up with him first and asking him questions.
Edit: He said this was just to make me not run off with Lars. He put my psychiatric history in there because he believes it is making me want to run off with Lars. But I don't want to run off with Lars (his definition of abduction is me taking Lars somewhere without his consent, but him staying down there with Lars without my consent is mysteriously not abduction so Stan is trying to put things in his favor by lying about me saying I'm a physical danger to Lars thus libeling and slandering me for his own selfish reasons); I want Lars to have not just me but Stan with him at the same time. I could abduct him without harming him and that would still be a crime they would take seriously, so why did he need to put things in there about me harming Lars and lie about some things? Anyway, now I want the three of us to be together, so I won't abduct him. So why didn't he just tell me that Lars would be happier with both parents with him all the time than with one parent even if the one parent was constantly stimulating him and loving him? That prevents abduction more than a court order does. Also, I had never said that I would abduct Lars, and so I think he was concerned that I would get a lawyer and get Lars. He either automatically thought he would be the better one for Lars, not trusting me or anyone else who might help me with LArs, or he just wanted Lars all to himself for selfish reasons either knowing or not knowing that that wasn't the best thing for Lars. He knew that I had about as much legal right to keep Lars there without my consent as I had to bring him elsewhere without his consent, so he got a lawyer to become Lars's sole conservator before I could get one to remain one of Lars's conservators and take him places without Stan-- Stan is selfish, wanting Lars all to himself for his own selfish reasons, or wanting conservatorship of Lars all to himself thinking that he can have him and me that way, thinking that if he can have conservatorship of Lars all to himself at least that makes himself happy and healthy (even though it does something bad to me, his main priorioty is himself). Edit: the turth is actually that either he assumes he can provide more for Lars (and he's assuming falsely) or he wants Lars with him all the time (not necessarily all to himself) if he thinks he can provide more for Lars (including letting lots of people besides just him and pay attention to him and love him [but in his presence while he's paying attention to Lars as well] to stimulate him) than I would provide, or he knows he can't provide as much of that for Lars as I can but he doesn't care because as long as he has Lars his own health and happiness are intact. I would provide more stimulation for Lars than he would. While he gives Lars all the attention he can, I would have exposed him to more people WHILE I was giving him my undivided attention and he would have gotten even MORE stimulation. He would have gotten all the undivided attention from me and AT THE SAME TIME attention from others who loved him, and he ewould have gotten even MORE stimulation. We would of course have stimulated him in the different ways required for him to be able to learn how to get the most stimulation/satisfaction out of life. Stan falsely thinks going to court is going to help Lars, protecting him from me. He says I wouldn't give him a good life, that since I'd said on WP once that it would be fun to travel the world having babies with different Aspie guys that I was serious and that I'd do that with Lars. That's not true; I wasn't actually PLANNING to do that; I'd give Lars a better life. I wouldn't spend time with other guys neglecting Lars. He probably thought that the court wouldn't give him Lars just because he thought he would give Lars a better life than I would, so he had to lie and exaggerate. He needs reassurance and love in order to believe in me more as weell as Lars, as opposed to going against me and saying negative things about me like he's doing. Edit: he said the court would give him Lars just for that, and that he couldn't tell me why he lied about me but that was just the way things worked. He did what he thought was best for himself and for Lars, anyway. He had told me at first, however, that everything he wrote in the report was true.
He says I'm bipolar, but he himself is diagnosed with bipolar disorder. (But he probably meant that I still had problems on my meds, whereas he didn't.)
He called the cops on me so that he could get Lars, two weeks after I left, and later said in his petition that I had left to end the relationship. 3 or 4 weeks after I left he filed the petition. I had told him I would be gone for two months. He also wanted me to be in Lars's life but used me running away from Lars as a defence for me not being allowed to be around Lars, but if he wanted me to be around Lars to prove that I wanted him he would not have gotten a restraining order separating me and Lars.
The police, when coming to my door after Stan called Crime Stoppers on me after I posted about wanting to (but not planning to) shopot up schools, asked for me by my real name and said that someone on WP had called the cops on me. Only two people on WP knew my real name-- Stan and Allen. Stan admitted a month later, when I finally asked him, that he had done it. He said he never told me he had done it because I never asked, and that because I never asked he assumed I didn't want to talk about it. I asked him why his tip had been anonymous, he said "Is there any other way?" HE said he didn't tell me he'd done it because he assumed I didn't want to talk to him about it, because I didn't bring it up, and he said he doesn't know why he didn't tell me when I was talking to him about someone telling on me, and that he doesn't think everything out before he does or doesn't do something. This, he says, is also true for the times we had stilent moments over the phone when he could have interjected and told me that he had done it. He said that he had no reason why he didn't tell me. Probably because he was too lazy, or or too busy thinking about other things. He said he didn't try to hide it from me. He said, without prompting, that he understood why him keeping it from me would upset me and that he hadn't been doing that. I think he said he told on me for LArs's sake, and that is probably why he didn't ask if I wanted him to tell on me (all the other times Ihe said it was my choice if I wanted to go to the mental hospital or not). He did say that he also did it because he wanted to get me the medical help up in Canada that he knew I needed (since he knew I wanted to be up there for the time being). He said he knew I wouldn't go to jail as a result of him telling on me and that he knew I would get some kind of medical help. He said he's glad I'll be getting money from Social Services as a result of what he did and that he was bothered that I hadn't gotten it yet, and he told me to ask about it. HE said, unprompted, that he was sorry he hid it from me that he had told on me himself. He said he knows that hiding the truth from me is the worst thing you can do to me personally. He agreed that it's only moral to tell me something if it's my business even if it's his business too, but he said "Eventually." He said he understands that for me, him doing something to me and telling me about it is better than him doing nothing to me but not being an honest person. He said that he understands that he should from now on assume I want to know, not that I don't want to know, and when he said I wanted to talk about the reral issue that's going on instead of small talk like what's for dinner, , he changed the subject, saying taht he thinks I sometimes try to find issues to bring up. I said I don't. He promised me he'll tell me everything from now on if he knows something I don't know. He said he knew I would know when I thought about it, and that he was surprised that it took me so long to think about and thus figure it out that he had told on me. I told him that I can't have done anything to him if he'd told me the truth right away. So there was no reason for him not to have told me. HE did say that he did not try to hidde it from me; he just didn't tell me because he assumed I'd figure it out, and that he didn't talk about it to me because he assumed I didn't want to talk about it. He says he does not plan to tell the court that it was he who called the police on me, because "It probably won't come up." I told him that what I meant when I had told him before not to hide the truth from me was that I wanted him to tell me everything. And he had said, "I never want to hide the truth from you." He said he hadn't hid it from me; he just hadn't told me, but my definition of hiding it is not telling someone when you can and it's their business.
But why did he put the lies in there about me being capable of harming Lars?
Also, the report says that Lars isn't allowed outside Texas. Yet he said I was an illegal immigrant, and they can ban me from the county for 10 years for that. Therefore, I wouldn't see Lars for 10 years. Also, him not being allowed outside Texas is unfair to him and won't work because Stan won't be able to take Lars outside of Texas himself and there is no way of telling when he crosses the border anyway. Amendment: Stan said he does not believe I will suffer any consequences from him telling the court that I am an illegal alien because they would just have that information in their system but it wouldn't be everywhere.
He basically said that I clearly didn't want Lars because I abandoned him. That isn't true, and if it was, why would he need to get a court order to ensure I didn't abduct him if he believed I didn't want him? If I didn't want him, I wouldn't abduct him. And if I abducted him, I would want him, so "She doesn't want him therefore she isn't a fit mother for him" doesn't make sense, and it doesn't make sense anyway.
He said in the report that I said I wished Lars had never been born. I did not say that. I did once say something to the effect of, "He might be unlucky his soul wound up inside this body here with me, if not going to be a good mother to him." He told me that he remembered me actually saying I wished Lars had never been born, not that he might be unlucky because he was born into this family. I also may have said something to the effect of "I wish it was just me and you and that we were alone together again", but I don't know if I ever said that.
He says, truthfully, but not in the report, that I didn't say a lot about Lars in my emails because I wanted to get it directly from Lars if he was happy or not as opposed to asking Stan about him. I wanted to hear Lars making happy little noises over the phone when I talked to him. I didn't realize that asking Stan, even if I don't believe his answers, is caring. And I had nothing to TELL him about Lars.
He doesn't want me to move back in with him yet, but it would make Lars more happy if he had both of us with him at the same time, and if I didn't move back in with him and Lars I'm sure Lars would still be happy but not as happy. Stan says he thinks it's wrong for me to be away from Lars yet he doesn't want me to be around Lars.
Stan said that me walking out on them proved to him that I cared more avbout other things than about my son and that I would therefore not give him as good a life as he would if I had him.
At first Stan said everything in his petition was true, then he said that he couldn't tell me why he lied in the petition, but it might be that he had just forgotten that he had lied in the petition or that he had a different defintion of lying than me or something. I asked Stan why he won't even tell me why he isn't telling me, and won't even confirm that it's to protect his right to exclusive custody of Lars. I know the reason he isn't even telling me why he isn't telling me is to protect his custody of Lars, and I don't know how he can possibly think that I don't know that just because he didn't tell me.
He says he isn't going to address most of my comments here, probably because he has no answer other than that his intent is malicious. He does say, however, that he will tell me why he lied and everything else (even though he then said he didn't lie) after the court ordeal is over, which confirms that he said untrue things to get Finnegan.
Stan also attached a page of my medical records from the HCPC to his petition that I had left behind at his house, but I had never signed a release of information document for him to access my medical files from the HCPC. Yes, I had left them behind for him, but I had still never signed a paper saying he could see them.
Stan wrote something ambiguous that may appear to say that the day after I ran away he talked to me about leaving and I left, when actually he talked to me about leaving the day after I ran away and then again weeks later after another incident that did not involve running away, and then I left.
Because I promised that I wouldn't break up with Stan and then did a few times, though it wasn't breaking up with him, he's rightfully too suspicious of me to want to get back together with me for certain, because my promises aren't what they seem. And how I said I wouldn't bring up my issues with him from the past but then I did. I guess wht goes around comes around. I acted like I didn't want him and now he's acting like he doesn't want me because of that. Also, he's telling me he still loves me without talking about getting back together, which is what I did to him.
Well, a lawyer said that I could have gone to jail as a result of Stan having called Crime Stoppers on me... he probably knew that I wouldn't in the end, though.
Stan said in his petition that he was extremely concerned that I may be on my way back to houston. But I planned to go back to Houston to be with him and Lars. I hadn't left to end the relationship like he said i had.
There is proof that he actually did call Crime Stoppers on me-- the police asked for me by my real nme when they came to our door, not by my screen name on WrongPlanet, and only two people on WP know my real name-- him and another friend. He admits it was him.
He claims to want me to see Lars, but because he called Crime Stoppers on me, I may have to stay up in Canada to complete a psychiatric/psychological program. Also, he says I shouldn't go back to him until after the court business is finished, which can take 6 months or even longer.
He encouraged me to leave. He asked me if I needed a break, and asked me if I wanted to visit my parents, and for how long, and kept asking when I wanted to go. However, he did tell me that the day I left he couldn't believe I had actually left and he waited in his truck outside the bus station for 10 minutes for me to come back. He had said that if I needed a break I could go for a visit, and I chose to go for a visit.
He probably just has the restraining order so that it will seem like he is making me get treatment before I am allowed near Lars, so that it will make it seem like I am really dangerous, and that I would take Lars and not give him a good life.
He says he won't answer the question of why he sued me, and won't even answer the question of why he can't answer, but I know that why he can't answer the question of why he sued me is so that I won't have time to defend myself against his reason in court, so I don't know why he refyused to tell me that as though I could never have guessed.
Now Stan isn't talking to me at all, except for two very short emails, and he isn't letting me talk to Lars. He isn't talking to me, and won'
t even tell me why he won't talk to me, maybe so that I can't tell the court that he's talking to me. But I could lie and tell the court that he talked to me, so what's the point? And he can't tell me why he can't tell me because he doesn't want the court to know he'll still be in contact with me after and that he wants to talk to me? He said it's nopt that he doesn't want to talk to me. But I'm not stupid; I know that's the reason; so why doesn't he just say so?
He said about me bringing up my issues with him with him: "You can't get upset if Lars upsets you, and he's going to." But if he doesn't answer my questions or promise not to do certain upsetting things again, is he going to do that to our son too? Is he going to ignore him if he asks a question or brings up an issue, like he did to me? Is he going to expect Lars to put him first and accept that he doesn't want to answer him, even though he should have no obligation to do that, since he didn't ask to be born?
Also, Stan told people, in order to get sympathy, that I abandoned Lars. What really happened was that I came up for a visit, and that when I said I was breaking up with him I planned to get a lawyer for partial custory of Lars, which I even told Stan. That isn't abandoning him.
When I asked Stan if he planned to end the relationship when he instigated the lawsuit all I wanted was a yes or no and he said he didn't want to talk about that. I said it had nothing to do with the lawsuit so therefore I didn't know why he couldn't talk about it, and he said it had everything to do with the lawsuit. But of he had wanted to end the relationship, he would just have said yes, and it wouldn't have jeopardized his chances of winning, so he must mean no. Yet he says he'll have to think about whether he wants to get back with me or not, and if he's telling me that he might as well tell me iof he intended to end the relationship when he instigated the lawsuit. Edit: I forgot; he thought both things were the same and he said he'd already told me the answer to that-- that he wanted to give it time and see, so I guess he had been thinking that when he instigated the lawsuit. He did say shortly after I found out about the lawsuit, "I don't know what will happen between us."
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